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Re: What steps should I take to tune my load and rifle
Reply #15 - May 25th, 2019 at 6:06pm
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Tom:

The maximum bullet weight for your twist of rifle is 195 grains.

Kinetic Energy is dependent on velocity and mass of the bullet.
The greater the mass (weight) of your bullet; the less susceptible you will be to wind drift due to increased kinetic energy.

You would be better to find the powder sweet spot for a heavier bullet than a 170 grain to minimize the impact from the wind.

With my .32 caliber rifles I progressed to a 11.5:1 twist to fire a 235 grain bullet which helps me to be more competitive with other shooters under windier conditions.

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Reply #16 - May 25th, 2019 at 7:35pm
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Tom I would highly encourage you to not even listen to myself. Go out and spend sometime out at the range and you will soon figure what it takes minus any miss leading confusion or recommendations from someone else.
  

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Reply #17 - May 25th, 2019 at 11:25pm
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well said.

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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2019 at 9:10am
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Tom, It hasn't been mentioned yet but have you slugged your barrel ? Knowing the exact bore size will help you decide which is the best size bullet you need.  Give it a try.  Dale.
  

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Re: What steps should I take to tune my load and rifle
Reply #19 - May 27th, 2019 at 10:11am
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Here is my method Its not fast but nothing good is. 
Take to the range your powder measure a chronograph a bunch of targets your going to need them. 
Start at 100 yards with something under your best load. For your 14-½ gr 4227 Id start at 14.2. Shoot 5 in to let the powder settle in the measure now shoot on paper keep track of your velocities for the 5 shots and the vertical dispersion. Now move up one click or .01 Gr. shoot 5 more in the bank and then do the same record the vertical and velocities. Do that until your vertical drops to nothing.
Now move out to 200 and start from there do the same thing, this may take you 3 or 4 sessions. When you find the velocity that gives the smallest vertical record that. Now you can play with seating depth. Start about .010” shy of what you tested with move out in .005” increments until you are happy. 
This method is not fast but it is what gives me the best results. Your best velocity may change slightly for different powders. It will change drastically for different bullets.

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Reply #20 - May 27th, 2019 at 12:55pm
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40 Rod has given good advice. The main goal is to get to the least amount of vertical dispersion and then fine tune from there. The only difference between myself and 40 Rod was I would go up in 1/2 grain increments and then to 1/10 grain going both up and down. I would use five shot groups at a 100 and if I knew I pulled one I would add a sixth. I could very typically do this with a target or two very easily in one outing and I never cleaned or stopped from one group to the next. It was also quite typical once I got the vertical down to being it's least there would still be to much horizontal. A tenth or two in the powder charge would then bring the horizontal in making the groups nice and round and having no change to the vertical. I would not set out my chronograph until I found what I wanted as I did not what the velocity to influence what I was trying to accomplish and could careless what it might have been. When all was said and done I would then verify my average velocity and with my 32-40 it ended up being 1474. Now knowing that this was this particular bullets sweet spot I would simply go right to it when trying different powders, primers and seating depths. That approach has always worked out very well for myself and the quickest why to test several variations in a day. One I found what my rifle liked the very best my time was then spent on checking for day, day out and year round consistency. If I wasn't seeing it right away I wouldn't mess with it anymore and would simply move on with testing something else. The lack of consistency was due to the powder being used more times than it was not. The least of those that I have tested was 4227 with 300MP ending up being the best. But also keep in mind your rifle might just like the opposite of mine and why it is so important to try them all. This also holds true for primers, seating depths and just importantly testing in various temperature ranges as well from very hot to very cold. Temperatures can typically be delt with by small changes in ones powder charge and in tenths of which can change from one day to the very next. This holds true for my own personal rifle so I simply check the vertical on my sighter target to verify whether it needs to be slightly adjusted or not. It is also not untypical for me to shoot fifteen or more sighters to verify my charge needs to be where it's at long before going to a record target.
  

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