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John Boy Ex Member	Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:52am	Print Post
	J. Stevens Arms & Tool Company only produced Stevens Ideal 44 1/2's for a short period: 1904 to 1916. Let's try to identify in what time frame of the 12 years yours or others known were made: 14 10096 785 1032 044 ½ 10118 704 1240 10350 1278 10588 1339 1495 044 ½ 10626 15821 W/O 1632 10753 1662 1107X 1676 10844 1749 11142 11578 11649 11680 1859 1921 2186 12118 2686 12154 3332 12387 3376 12509 3678 12584 3775 12853 12876 3810 12897 3927 12913 4208 16029 4255 18053 19317 4602 4780 4851 5517 5538 5774 7023 8452 8935 9176 9253 9255 9437 9831
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SBoomer Oldtimer Offline Posts: 949 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #1 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	Mine is 12118 and has been rebarrelled. It was probably made the same day as yours John.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #2 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	A worthwhile objective, but difficult because, unlike the 44, which went through several datable design changes, there's little to distinguish early from late 44-1/2 models except the ser. no. Only change in markings I know of was the "Trademark-Stevens" marking applied to barrels, first shown in catalog #54, pub. 1914.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #3 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	In the end, all you'll have is a list of who owns which serial number. And maybe the highest and lowest numbers made if everybody contributes. You could guess at approximately how many were made based on totals, and years of production. But it would be a very inaccurate guesstimate without knowing what years had higher production vs. lower.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #4 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	It would more accurate than what we have now! I'll add mine later today. Frank
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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #5 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	Mine is 12738. I have no idea what year it was made.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #6 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	LONG RANGE wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:04pm: Mine is 12738. I have no idea what year it was made. Your beautiful Semi-Military #404 can be dated more closely than almost any other Stevens model, because it was built only between 1913 & 1916; not listed in catalog 53 (1912), only the last pre-war cat., #54.


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silver Full Member Offline Posts: 185 Location: Central wi, Joined: Sep 20^th, 2016	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #7 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 4:34pm	Print Post
	My 44 1/2 is serial #9253 it has shilen .22 barrel on it now, original barrel is in 32/40 with matching #s


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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #8 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	Redsetter wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:31pm: LONG RANGE wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 3:04pm: Mine is 12738. I have no idea what year it was made. Thanks Redsetter. Your beautiful Semi-Military #404 can be dated more closely than almost any other Stevens model, because it was built only between 1913 & 1916; not listed in catalog 53 (1912), only the last pre-war cat., #54.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #9 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	1859 .25-20, now .22 Hornet 3810 .32-40 3332 .28-30 not the original barrel 4602 .25-21 None are glamorous enough to warrant posting photos.

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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1010 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #10 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	I think there were no 44 1/2 rifles with a 13000 serial number. Ledball


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CharleHunter Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2019	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #11 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	3927 22LR out here in Australia


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #12 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	My two are: 10626 with DST 5517 plain trigger Neither have original barrels. Frank
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Mike Gish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Location: colorado Joined: Jul 6^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #13 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	My two: 7023 British marks 19317 47 action


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1077 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #14 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	#9255, barrel 11142


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #15 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: Your beautiful Semi-Military #404 can be dated more closely than almost any other Stevens model, because it was built only between 1913 & 1916; not listed in catalog 53 (1912), only the last pre-war cat., #54. Redsetter, in the Savage & Stevens Arms book, it reads: In the No 53 catalog of 1911, an attractive rifle described as the "Semi Military Model 404 appears, etc. etc... not 1913 to 1916 And this rifle was on a 44 action not a 44 1/2, because it was chambered for a 22LR only
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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1009 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #16 - Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	My 44 1/2 #1676 25/20SS double set #3775 Relined .22LR double set #8452 Relined 25/20SS #9831 rebored 32/40 with single set #10753 .22lr double set

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #17 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:28am	Print Post
	Quote: Redsetter, in the Savage & Stevens Arms book, it reads: In the No 53 catalog of 1911, an attractive rifle described as the "Semi Military Model 404 appears, etc. etc... not 1913 to 1916 Either a typo or careless research--#53 speaks for itself, & the 404 ain't in it. (I have 2 original copies.) It's first listed in #54, & did not (like the 414 model) return to production after the war. However, it's correct that some were produced on the 44 action, as Grant reports them. What's fascinating is that the 404 illustration in #54 shows (if you look carefully) a 44 action, but the description of it states 44-1/2! Which suggests to me that Stevens initially planned to offer it built on the 44 action (perfectly suitable for .22RF, of course), but for some reason switched to the newer action. But the fact that some 404s were built on 44 actions does not alter the fact that the model itself was only in production 3 yrs or less according to the catalog.


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kensmachine Oldtimer Offline Posts: 558 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2012	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #18 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:39am	Print Post
	I have a 404 on a 44 action Ken


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #19 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:33am	Print Post
	Redsetter - I defer to you and original catalogs. Stevens information,in my short time frame, thought determining the 44 1/2 serials was going to be a walk in the park. What I'm coming to realize - the serials are not easy to compile. Digging around on the internet for other 44 1/2 serials and what the forum members posted ... the serials are primarily 4 digits and 5 digit serials are few. So I've only come up with 8 serials with 5 digits, the highest one being 12897. Lead Pot believes there are no serials higher than 13000, yet on Gun Auctions, they listed one for sale with a serial of 16029. Mistake? Could be. AMOSKEAG listed two 44's for sale and Gail at CPA spotted they were wrong, one being a 44 1/2 that I bought from her The highest 4 digit serial so far is 9831 and the lowest being 1240 on Cow Auction. If the rifles were numbered sequentially, that puts 8591 rifles that were made and sold...or guessing an average of 660 per year during a period when smokeless powder rifles were the vogue and single shot shooters were in the minority ... which believe is a lot of 44 1/2's PS: Good Night Gracie and All
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #20 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 2:07am	Print Post
	Redsetter wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 12:28am: Quote: Redsetter, in the Savage & Stevens Arms book, it reads: In the No 53 catalog of 1911, an attractive rifle described as the "Semi Military Model 404 appears, etc. etc... not 1913 to 1916 Either a typo or careless research--#53 speaks for itself, & the 404 ain't in it. (I have 2 original copies.) It's first listed in #54, & did not (like the 414 model) return to production after the war. ... The "Ideal" No. 404 "SEMI-MILITARY" MODEL Take-Down Weight about 8 lbs. List Price $27.00 is shown on page (39) of my original STEVENS FIREARMS GENERAL CATALOG NO. 53, and this catalog also contains various pages that have the magenta colored "This Model Discontinued." stampings within the threaded catalog binding. The No. 404 immediately follows the No. 56 "LADIES' " MODEL which is shown on page (38) of the catalog.
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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #21 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:58am	Print Post
	BP wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 2:07am: The "Ideal" No. 404 "SEMI-MILITARY" MODEL Take-Down Weight about 8 lbs. List Price $27.00 is shown on page (39) of my original STEVENS FIREARMS GENERAL CATALOG NO. 53, and this catalog also contains various pages that have the magenta colored "This Model Discontinued." stampings within the threaded catalog binding. The No. 404 immediately follows the No. 56 "LADIES' " MODEL which is shown on page (38) of the catalog. Then I stand corrected--only explanation I can think of is that #53 went through a second edition or printing. Sharpe also listed 1913 as the first year of 404 production.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #22 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 10:31am	Print Post
	#1749 .32-40 Stevens-Pope

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 275 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #23 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:11pm	Print Post
	I was bored some Saturday and was away from home so I didn't have any books with me....so apologies up front for all the nomenclature in the linked spreadsheet being wrong (and needs to be corrected), but the best I can contribute at the moment. Have other folders with photos of several of the rifles listed, but can't upload folders to the drop box. I thought I would dedicate more time to the effort but only manage part of a day....but I have kiddos 10 & 12 who are a lot of fun.... might as well go to someone with more time than me. Spreadsheet has a few tabs it in. Like I said only part of a day...(password will quit working after a couple of days) A lot of info available on the web if someone has time to stay after it. Stevens Password: kVsdgGTqxSwu (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 335 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #24 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 1:54pm	Print Post
	Stevens 44 1/2 #12913 25-20 SS #4780 22 LR #12387 32 RF #4851 25 RF


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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #25 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	If you read Grants book page 102 he describes the 404 Semi- Military. It reads, the rifle was made up on the 44 1/2 action with automatic ejectors and 28 inch round barrel. Chambered in 22LR only. I can tell the difference between the 44 and 44 1/2 action. Just look at the profile. I would not buy a rifle with a 44 action. In my opinion they are too weak for smokeless powder. I saw one that Ray Day wrecked with a moderate load of smokeless and it was factory engraved. It was a 32-40. I will post a close up picture of my 44 1/2.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #26 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 5:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: I hope this settles the question. Long Range - questioned settled. It's amazing about Stevens rifle when one reads multiple books and different answers are in both. Grant is an excellent source to resolve a diffrence


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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #27 - Apr 11^th, 2019 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	I agree John, I refer to that book often. It was given to me in the early 1960s. While the cover is pretty beat up I would never sell it. I used to shoot muzzle loading rifles on the same day the single shot guys met. I fell in love withe the Stevens but of course I couldn't afford one. They were much more expensive than the Winchester Hi Wall, any Remington, even the Hepburn or Ballard either, unless it had a Pope barrel. When you could buy a 1911 in excellent condition for $35 a Stevens 44 1/2 cost several hundred. I did get to trade for a model 45 but the barrel was pretty poor. I had a friend named Ed Mason who had a very large Stevens collection. When he became terminally ill he began to dispose of his Stevens rifles and pistols. I was able to buy the 404 at that time. I don't know why Joe Gorgian bought most of the guns I don't know why he passed on this one. I spelled Joe's name wrong but you get the idea. He does a large business in single shot rifles.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #28 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 11:14am	Print Post
	That's probably Jim Goergen, not Joe.

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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #29 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	How quickly we forget these days, even when we had such a long and fairly enlightening discussion about Stevens catalog numbers and dates only last fall. Be that as it may, the No. 53 is indeed one of the catalogs that had its number repeated, as back then we firmly established that there were at least 1911 and 1912 versions. Bill Lawrence


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #30 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	Bill Lawrence wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:49pm: How quickly we forget these days, even when we had such a long and fairly enlightening discussion about Stevens catalog numbers and dates only last fall. Be that as it may, the No. 53 is indeed one of the catalogs that had its number repeated, as back then we firmly established that there were at least 1911 and 1912 versions. Bill Lawrence That "Old-Timer's" disease does cause short and long-term memory issues.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #31 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	Mike Gish wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 11:02pm: My two: 7023 British marks 19317 47 action Since the subject of the highest know serial number has been raise, I'd like to ask Mike to confirm his 19317 rifle and describe it, if he would be so kind. Frank

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1082 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #32 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	This was on Gunbroker recently. Stevens arms roll marks on receiver. Serial #12509 (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Shouldn't that put it in the New England Westinghouse or Savage days after production supposedly stopped ?
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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1073 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #33 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	Mine is #11921 - rebarreled. I made a note from something I read somewhere - don't know where - that 441/2 numbers ran from 500 to 12940. Wish I'd have noted where I got that from................. Regards, Joe


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #34 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	The barrel rollstamp is pre-Savage, though.

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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #35 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	Bill Lawrence wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 12:49pm: How quickly we forget these days, even when we had such a long and fairly enlightening discussion about Stevens catalog numbers and dates only last fall. Be that as it may, the No. 53 is indeed one of the catalogs that had its number repeated, as back then we firmly established that there were at least 1911 and 1912 versions. You are right but it has been about 25 years since I met him so I had guess about his name, after all both names do start with a "J". So I was close. Bill Lawrence


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #36 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 11:35pm	Print Post
	My 44 1/2's for your information. #10588 .222-15-60 26" barrel, Stevens flip up front sight, later Lyman #2 rear sight. #5538 38-55. #785 .25-21 205 beach combination front sight, 102 vernier peep sight. #10844 Model 47 .25-20 Sheard 3 leaf express rear sight. #12853 .22 long rifle. #10096 '32-40 Lyman rear tang sight. #4255 Model 45 .22 short, 28" barrel, Stevens 207 windage front sight, Lyman 2A rear tang sight. #2186 Model 45 .32 Ideal, Stevens globe front sight, Stevens vernier tang sight with combination eyecup. Breaach loading tool of unknown manufactur. I also have a Model 404 Serial # 12190 in .22 Long Rifle that i believe is a 44 action. I would have to find it to confirm that for sure. Relined barrel. I bought it from Gorgen. Hope this is helpful. Found another one. Barrel only. #759 or 750 stamping is not real clear .44-40 #2 heavy barrel 26" . Bought it on Gunbroker and currently on what was my .38-55.
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Mike Gish Full Member Offline Posts: 183 Location: colorado Joined: Jul 6^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #37 - Apr 12^th, 2019 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Frank, thanks for the question, I was beginning to wonder myself. The rifle is a custom made on a 44 1/2 action, I got it from Gary Quinlin a number of years ago from an estate sale. It is a heavy barrel 17 Achley Hornet, single set trigger with a four finger lever.no Stevens roll marks on the receiver. I will try and take some pictures tomorrow and see if I can get a friend to post them.


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2218 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #38 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	Here are Mike's pictures. Nice rifle. Chuck


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #39 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Several have noted that "the street" has long believed that 44-1/2 serial numbers don't go higher than 13,xxx. Yet here we have one that's roughly 6,000 higher. Anybody want to speculate where those "missing" rifles are now? Does it matter that the lower tang is removable? Bill Lawrence


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #40 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	Is the barrel also numbered 19317? If not, I've got a possible speculation, but will withhold it pending the answer to that question.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #41 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 12:14pm	Print Post
	Since the lower tang is serial numbered, would it matter whether it's removable or not? Does the 44 1/2 tang fit into a 44?

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #42 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	Yes. Frank

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kensmachine Oldtimer Offline Posts: 558 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2012	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #43 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	chucks 44 1/2 has a single set trigger so I would say its the right lower tang for his rifle


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #44 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	Found two more English Models 044 1/2's. #1495 .22 Long Rifle #1032 .25-25 Stevens


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1010 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #45 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	I hope this serial#is correct, if so, there’s 6000 Stevens 44 1/2 rifles out there that no one has ever seen. I’ll keep my eyes open, maybe I can find # 19318. Ledball


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #46 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 1:13am	Print Post
	On the off chance that it might yield something, I dug this photo of Model 44 DST s/n 18053 out of my archive. Thinking that if 19317 had a different typeface to the stamp or something that would eliminate the possibility that it's a 44-series tang in a 44 1/2. No joy. It could still be. The only way left would be to check some of the pin diameters in the assembly. As I recall from working with Gail to get parts for a 44 DST assembly of mine they are different from what was used in the 44 1/2.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #47 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 11:12am	Print Post
	Has anyone ever seen a 44 with a single set trigger? I've only seen them with double set triggers, or regular non set trigger.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #48 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	This is out of the Stevens # 52 (1907) catalog. Frank
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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #49 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	For the good of the order: I sorted all the serial numbers in numerical order ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Now, let's try to ball park serial numbers within a year of production: respective to when they first appeared in different catalog numbers: maybe the owner wrote the purchase date on the inside of the stock or forearm * ie - when 044 1/2's were made in England * 1911 Known - Catalog #53 - the Semi-Military Model 404 * What year the firing pin re-tractor was introduced How many did Stevens produce a year (I read they did $500 a day of guns but that was probably all models SWAG!
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15943 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #50 - Apr 15^th, 2019 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	How many guns was "$500 a day"??? Was that the selling price of the guns made each day? Or the cost of making the guns each day? Bet they didn't make the same number each day too. This should be funny to see the wild speculation, and guesstimates for daily runs, or even yearly runs!

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Dales Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 311 Location: Western NY Joined: Oct 21^st, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #51 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 10:57am	Print Post
	I do not know the history of this rifle, has a 33-47 Bresien barrel . Was re colored by CPA .Face of action does not have any stampings. It does have the screw for ejector extractor (Paul S. told me all of the later 44 1/2 had this 22 lr or not) Dales


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #52 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 11:42am	Print Post
	Dales - added you to the list


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Dales Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 311 Location: Western NY Joined: Oct 21^st, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #53 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	As for 44 double set triggers used in 44 1/2 action I do not think that 44 hammer springs had a tension screw and did not have the extra trigger spring screws found in the 44 1/2 action . Should be easy to spot if a 44 1/2 action has a 44 trigger tang . Dales


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1010 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #54 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 10:48pm	Print Post
	I hope this conversation will not stop, I still think there were no factory 44 1/2 rifles made with a 13000 serial #. Ledball


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Smitty Participating Member Offline Posts: 22 Location: Poquoson, Va Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2008	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #55 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 9:13am	Print Post
	#4208 on my 44 1/2 smitty


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1591 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #56 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 9:50am	Print Post
	I have #11680 model 45 25-21 with the ejector screw.

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Dales Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 311 Location: Western NY Joined: Oct 21^st, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #57 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 10:52am	Print Post
	I have some new info on the rifle I posted a pic of the ser. # 15821. I talked with Gail at CPA and she looked at the history of my rifle . The number 15821 was their work order for that rifle ; it had no serial number on it when they worked on it so they added their work order number to the tang so they had a way to identify the rifle. She thought 134xx was the highest number Stevens used. Dales


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7215 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #58 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	Let me add a little more info on my 10626 rifle: It came to me as a 22RF, with a Win, Model 52 barrel on it and doesn't have the cross bolt, for the ejector. It also has this strange 9 marking on the face of the action. I swapped out the bb and put a Stevens 38/55 barrel on it. Frank

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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 685 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #59 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	9437 M-49 44 1/2 32-40 half octagon barrel.


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moshannon Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Location: SW PA Joined: Aug 8^th, 2006	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #60 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	I've had several 44 1/2's, some no longer with me. The are as follows: #49 - DST three barrel set - SN 704 #47 - DST Stevens-Pope - SN 11649 #44 - SN 12876 (Stevens stamp on left side w/ejector) #47 - DST - SN 1662 #47 - DST - SN 5774 #44 - Neidner barrel - SN 11578 #45 - DST - SN 1339
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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2820 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #61 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	I had the use of a Stevens-Pope "Pope Special Schuetzen" in .22 Short. It had 44 1/2 action with a SN #14. Stevens-Pope barrel # was about 1800, so made after Pope's departure. That implies that they were not done in numerical order.


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AZshot Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Desert Southwest Joined: Nov 29^th, 2016	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #62 - May 22^nd, 2019 at 9:41am	Print Post
	OK, so what have we learned? I like the idea the OP had of breaking the features down by year they were introduced, cataloged new features, etc.
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Giles Newbie Offline Posts: 7 Location: Eaton ohio Joined: Feb 1^st, 2019	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #63 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 1:04am	Print Post
	Giles 441/2 Stevens in 3855 serial #8935.


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RonJonUSN Junior Member Offline Posts: 68 Location: Dias Creek, New Jersey Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #64 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 10:44am	Print Post
	1107x with the "Trademark" barrel stamp.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #65 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Got all the numbers so far posted in the 1st post


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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 838 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #66 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	441/2 only or also 0441/2? Mike


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #67 - Jun 19^th, 2019 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: 441/2 only or also 0441/2? Mike - Both


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2025 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #68 - Jun 20^th, 2019 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	John, Not much help here as all of mine were just actions, partials or had Bubba sporterize it. #1942 centerfire block, pistol grip, double set triggers rebarreled to 219 Zipper. #8646 receiver minus breech block - std. trigger pistol grip #10590 complete action, 22rf, single set trigger, straight grip No other numbers on action faces except 44 1/2 Greg

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 838 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #69 - Jun 23^rd, 2019 at 12:12am	Print Post
	Tale of 2 rifles Several years ago I aquired an 044 1/2 English model single trigger in 25-20 SS, a short time later I aquired a ladies model 56, 22lr. I wanted to build my wife a Schuetzen rifle. I used lower tang & double set assembly & what ever parts necessary from the 56, had Paul Shuttlworth install a half oct. Douglas barrel and chamber it for 28-30. She still didn’t get interested. The model 56 serial number is 3421 (on the lower tang of the current rifle). Mike


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LarryLee Participating Member Offline Posts: 47 Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2018	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #70 - Jun 25^th, 2019 at 10:58am	Print Post
	10761 .32-40 No "Trademark"
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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 690 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #71 - Jun 29^th, 2019 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Currently 044 1/2 22LR stag butt plate ser. 2721 044 1/2 25-20SS crescent butt ser. 1892 44 1/2 25 RF ser. 4495 44 1/2 mod. 45 25-20SS ser. 2105 44 1/2 mod 45 ser. 1804 Will post all ones I've had later.


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Reverend Al Oldtimer Offline Posts: 568 Location: Victoria BC Canada Joined: Jun 25^th, 2016	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #72 - Jun 30^th, 2019 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Stevens 44 in .25-20 SS #61820 (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Stevens 47 in .32-40 #4225 (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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dibbler Participating Member Offline Posts: 22 Location: Basha Kill, NY Joined: May 17^th, 2014	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #73 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 5:37am	Print Post
	Is the serial number on the model 47: 4225?


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Reverend Al Oldtimer Offline Posts: 568 Location: Victoria BC Canada Joined: Jun 25^th, 2016	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #74 - Jul 1^st, 2019 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	Yes, it is 4225 ... sorry, my mistake! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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CharleHunter Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 361 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2019	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #75 - Jul 21^st, 2019 at 3:40am	Print Post
	Just realised that my father has s/n 2144 that was rebuilt by CPA back in the 90's. It was originally a model 47 38/55 but is now a 25/20 SS M54. Unfortunately I can not locate the original trigger guard or barrel but do have the original stock and fore end. Exceptional work by CPA and I will endeavour to post some pictures when I can. Also have an unfinished project "Lady Model" that was converted to 22. hornet originally but now sports an unfinished un-chambered hexagonal 25 cal. Stock work is a repro based on the 47 stock and fore end from the previously mentioned rifle. Not sure of the serial but will post it as soon I can gain access to the rifle.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #76 - Jul 22^nd, 2019 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	S/N 10070 complete single-trigger action with correct loop lever is for sale on GB at the moment for too much $$ (no surprise there).

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selmerfan Junior Member Offline Posts: 63 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2013	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #77 - Feb 16^th, 2020 at 10:35pm	Print Post
	I am the happy owner of the Stevens 44 1/2 that my Great-Grandfather Wilson, whose family worked for the Peters Cartridge company, purchased brand-new with a 6x J.C. Stevens external adjustment scope. It is chambered in .22 LR and I have had CPA Rifles make a second barrel for it, chambered in .30-40 Krag, in which I fire only cast boolits. Serial number is #12083


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Life#75 Junior Member Offline Posts: 57 Location: Grimsby Ontario Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #78 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	mine is a 52 (unmarked Pope in .22short) serial # 4654 in Jim Grant's book

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #79 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 2:51pm	Print Post
	Two more 44 1/2 serials owned by blackbahart in British Columbia. Posted on Castboolits forum * Schützen is 28-30, ser#10871 * 40-65 SER# 9645


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 880 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #80 - Jun 25^th, 2020 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	I am new to the forum,I just joined a couple of days ago. This is my first post.I own six 44 1/2's and two 044 1/2's. #3189..... 44 1/2 double set triggers with a plain lever. Original caliber unknown,soon to be a 38-55,cpa will be working their magic on it. #3888.....45 .32 ideal,has a #3 barrel and a #2 swiss buttplate. #4165.....44 1/2 .25-20ss,has SST. #5792.....45 .219 zipper,original caliber unknown,also has a single set trigger. May become a .32-40 in the future. #8468.....44 1/2 .22lr. Plain extractor and without the extra screw for ejector,numbers match. #10029.....44 1/2 .25-20ss,now a .28-30. #1278.....044 1/2 .22lr #1848.....044 1/2 .25rf.


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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #81 - Nov 15^th, 2020 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	I have seen several 44 1/2 in the low 500 serial number range and none in the 400s. The highest I have seen is 12934. It is believed that none were made over 13,000.


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J.Francis Full Member Offline Posts: 143 Location: Pownal, Vermont Joined: Nov 20^th, 2011	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #82 - Nov 26^th, 2020 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	#11,282 is a 22lr with a 34" barrel-I've never seen another Stevens 22 with a barrel that long. #9,460 is a DST with a Pope lever and 7 custom fitted barrels.


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kyairgunner Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2021	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #83 - May 8^th, 2021 at 10:50am	Print Post
	Add me on if you like. Just posted a write up with lots pics on this forum. I have a 44 1/2 DST s/n 3224 barrel number 5063 that is 34" in 22lr. Thanks chris


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kyairgunner Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2021	Re: Serial Numbers on Stevens 44 1/2 ... Reply #84 - May 8^th, 2021 at 10:52am	Print Post
	couple more pics


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