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There was no recording by deed and transfer of J Stevens Arms Company real property in the early 1920's ... it was done by Savage buying all the outstanding stock of J Stevens... same as if Warren Buffet bought all the stock of Coke a Cola

To wit... Early in 1920 Savage acquired all of the outstanding stock of J Stevens and became sole owners and operators of the Company.  For the next 16 years Stevens operated as a wholly owned subsidiary of Savage.  On January 2, 1936, Stevens Arms was wholly absorbed and made a division of Savage Arms Company

marlinguy wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2019 at 11:24am:


True, but if they intended to claim "accidental destruction" as the reason these records could not be shown to congressional investigators, it would have been very careless not to make some (phony) report to document the alleged "accident."  

And if this occurred during the Nye investigations, the decision would have been made by the current owner, Savage, not Westinghouse.

Redsetter wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2019 at 11:40am:


What you missed was the fact that the people in management were the same people who were in charge during Westinghouse's period. So it isn't relevant to whether Stevens, Westinghouse, or Savage was in ownership when the records were destroyed. The same people were there, and still could be subject to government charges if the records were found.
The only thing that changed from various periods was ownership. So I doubt Savage was going to be charged, but Savage management at Stevens held over form the Westinghouse years was certainly going to be charged.

Wouldn't it be a thrill if an ancestor of one of the Stevens employee's found the records stored in an attic of his house? If so, the finder has something better than cash in the bank for the firearms community

The congressional records are available and searchable online for the Nye investigation, I found them the last time this came up and honestly it was pretty boring, without much usable information.

The Chicopee Falls Historical society had better or at last more entertaining information.


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If I had those records, I'd burn 'em myself just keep hearing all these 'facts' stated without much evidence. Especially from the folks that say statements need to have bibliographical backing.

Any real estate or commercial sales records of J Stevens Arms wont exist, or be found. In 1896 when Joshua Stevens retired he sold the company to an investment group lead by Page, the company's chief accountant. Page continued to run the company for the investors, but it was a publicly owned company then, and not privately owned as it was under Stevens.
So Westinghouse simply bought a majority of shares from those investors to gain control/ownership of Stevens in 1915/16 time frame. Once they owned the major shares in Stevens, they held them throughout WWI and like other companies sold off the majority interest after the War.
Marlin went through the same thing with Rockwell Corporation buying Marlin shares from John Marlin's two sons. They ran Marlin through the end of WWI and then sold it to the men who ran the company after WWI. They ran Marlin until 1922 when it went into receivership and Frank Kenna bought it out of bankruptcy court. Kenna family ran Marlin until Remington bought it about a decade ago.
These war profiteers saw the money to be made by owning gun companies during WWI, but had no interest in sporting rifle manufacture, as there were no huge profits to be made on sporting rifles like there was with government contracts.

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When Savage took Stevens from a Subsidiary to a Division of Savage ... means J Stevens became Stevens Savage - ergo they own the building along with the outstanding shares they bought.  Bill: Add the equipment and who it was sold to or kept by Savage - I don't have  clue