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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Remington Hepburn Match B Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	Hello from across the pond. It really amazes me what surfaces out here in Oz....expect the unexpected! I recently located a Hepburn Match B Hi-Power rifle in .30/40 Krag that's been here since the 1920-30's. It has all the bells & whistles including sling eyes and a 34" barrel. The only things missing were the sights. A late production rifle with serial number 90XX. I ran this rifle past Tom Rowe and he came back saying that it was extremely rare to find a Match B in .30/40 with such a long barrel. Also the keen sighted among you Hepburn fans will notice an extra screw in the action (LH side, just above the hammer screw). This looks like it was installed at the factory and is a grub screw with a concave dimple on the end. I have no idea what it's purpose was and nor did Tom. I thought it might impact on the hammer (why?) but there is no corresponding wear marks on the left side of the hammer. Any suggestions as to its role? It's a wonderful rifle and something I never expected to find here let alone own . Spud


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #1 - Mar 19^th, 2019 at 11:59pm	Print Post
	Here's that strange screw


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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1282 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #2 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:57am	Print Post
	Nice rifle! No idea what the screw is for unless for some unusual sight, but that is a wild guess. maybe Richard 0331 will chime in. Good find

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #3 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:07am	Print Post
	Do serial #'s match (?), since the fore arm has a metal tip which are found on earlier serial # Hepburns.


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Bnelson Full Member Offline Posts: 166 Location: Lower Michigan Joined: Jan 5^th, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #4 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:16am	Print Post
	Could the screw be a plug screw for a breechseating stud? Bruce


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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1467 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #5 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 10:37am	Print Post
	Does the end of the set screw rub against the side of the hammer? Do you see any rub marks there? It looks aftermarket to me. Since the .30-40 was a higher intensity cartridge than most chambered in the Hepburn, perhaps the owner found that although the action would hold up to any reasonable loadings, the rebound feature would allow the primer to flow back into the firing pin hole, making the action hard to flick open with the side lever. This situation happens sometimes with my 40-90-3-1/4” Hepburn, requiring a second snap to drive the primer back so I can open the action. Frank deHaas recommended grinding the rebound feature off the Hepburn main spring and manually setting it to half cock if the action was to be used in a varmint rifle. This would keep the full force of the spring and hammer pressing the firing pin forward, keeping the primer flow to a minimum. This always seemed to me to be kind of a shame, since the rebound works so nicely. Maybe a previous owner figured that a judicious amount of drag on the side of the hammer would retard the rebound until the chamber pressure dropped. He would then have the best of both worlds. Just a guess, but if you shoot the rifle with factory loads and tweak the screw a little as you shoot, you may be able to see a difference in the primer dents. That is a fantastic specimen.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #6 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 10:50am	Print Post
	Looking at the hole with that setscrew removed makes me think it's not factory. I don't think it's for a breech seating tool, as most would use a larger diameter screw to avoid possible breakage. Maybe a weird sight as someone mentioned, or maybe a previous screw was longer and designed as a safety to lock down against the side of the hammer to stop the hammer from moving? A Hepburn Match B in .30-40 Krag is pretty rare, but any Hepburn in this caliber is not that common. But a Match B in this caliber, and a 34" Creedmoor length barrel is extremely rare! 34" barreled non Creedmoor Hepburns are unheard of! I thought I owned the only Match B with a 34" barrel, so it's pretty neat to see another! My 34" barreled Match B is a .32-40 B&M. A more common caliber for a Match B than your rare .30-40! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1019 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #7 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	I have a Match Grade A 30/40 with double set triggers. The barrel is only 30". Kurt

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #8 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	Beautiful Rifle and Congratulations on it now being yours. Breech seating lugs are / should be installed at the center line of the bore. Does that grub screw go all the through or does it bottom out prior too. If it were trying to be used for a seating lug it would be replaced with a longer one that the lug itself would then be screwed onto. But it would also tend to leave a circular mark from the lug touching the action when being tightened up and if not present it could then be ruled out.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #9 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	Color casehardening will tell you if screw holes are factory or not. If the colors are in good shape you can see the patterns that swirl around existing screw holes. If there's no pattern around a hole, it was likely not there when the action was quenched, and the colors developed. Notice how all the other holes have the pattern around them?

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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #10 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:01pm	Print Post
	Good tip on the CC signature around screw holes, thanks Vall. Do you want me to send this one over to keep yours company . I'm still slowly cleaning dried grease off the action so will have a good look. The function of that grub screw really is a puzzle, appreciate all the input/suggestions. That hole goes all the way through the side of the action but there is no corresponding wear marks on the side of the hammer. Also nice to see another one in .30/40 Kurt (have you ever shot it?...I'd be interested to hear how that Swiss butt plate handles the .30/40). I have an Axtell Remington mid range tang sight stashed away that will not look out of place on this one until I can find an original. Pete


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #11 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Does yours have that big old wide front dovetail? I think they're around .450" or so? Mine is missing it's windage front globe, and has a later non windage globe on it. I keep threatening to just order an MVA to put there, so it at least has a windage globe.

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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #12 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	Yep, .450", just measured it. Don't you just hate it when the sights are missing from these old rifles


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #13 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	Spud wrote on Mar 20^th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Yep, .450", just measured it. Don't you just hate it when the sights are missing from these old rifles Yes, especially when they're oddball dovetail sizes like Remington and Stevens used! If they were the more common .375" size there'd be a chance of finding them, and not paying more than a good gun costs! I've seen a lot of windage adjustable globe sights with .375" dovetail, but almost none loose from guns with the wide dovetail.

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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: Remington Hepburn Match B Reply #14 - Mar 20^th, 2019 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	I went looking for that mid-range tang sight and discovered this with it, an Axtell Rem wind gauge sight with spirit level. I'd completely forgotten I had it. Memory is going . I really need to do an inventory of my sights/parts/odds & sods cupboard! Lord knows what else I'll find. Anyway the sights for the Hepburn are sorted for the time being.


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