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RonJonUSN Junior Member Offline Posts: 68 Location: Dias Creek, New Jersey Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	38-50 Remngton brass question Mar 12^th, 2019 at 5:30pm	Print Post
	Is there an available brass that could be a parent case for forming my own 38-50 Remington brass? 405 Win maybe?


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4465 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #1 - Mar 12^th, 2019 at 5:44pm	Print Post
	30-40 Krag.


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1297 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2019 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	30-40 Krag is the proper case. Rem cases are generally favored as the parent case IMO. If Rem cases are not available, Midway USA has a brand in stock that also works. Cases can be full length sized in a .38-50 Rem Hep die, then use a .32 or .358 expander plug followed by a .375 plug. You may need to anneal between expander plugs but you will need to try a few to find out for sure. You will still need to fireform but that can be done with the same bullet you will be using for your rifle. The 405 Win rim is too thick.

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RonJonUSN Junior Member Offline Posts: 68 Location: Dias Creek, New Jersey Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #3 - Mar 12^th, 2019 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	Thanks guys. I am a great believer in annealing when resizing. Will try it.


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2310 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #4 - Mar 12^th, 2019 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Just personal experience, Had better luck expanding the neck before annealing to keep from collapsing the shoulder. Step expanding might be different. Lube is critical. Chuck


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18034 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2019 at 11:06am	Print Post
	Ditto what Chuck said! I tried annealing first when using the same brass to make my .40-50SS cases, and lost cases. I stopped and went to just expanding them, and annealing afterwards and never lost another case.

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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2019 at 11:19am	Print Post
	My experience is the same as Vall's.


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RonJonUSN Junior Member Offline Posts: 68 Location: Dias Creek, New Jersey Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2019 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Chuck, Vall & QB. Advice taken. I have never tried expanding a bottleneck. Did not know about collapsing the shoulder. Thanks.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4465 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 38-50 Remngton brass question Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2019 at 1:14pm	Print Post
	That's why I just fireform mine now.


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