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830singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 394 Location: Texas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Mar 5^th, 2019 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	My Dad had this in the 70's, later it hung in his garage. Now it's in my office. I thought it was cool even when I was a teenager. Scott Does anyone know when it would have been made?

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #1 - Mar 5^th, 2019 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	I think the "Rem-UMC" trademark was replaced by Rem Arms about 1935. Wonderful piece, & I'm glad to hear it got moved out of the garage!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #2 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:45am	Print Post
	Specifically that box marking and colors would date to 1930-33. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #3 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:15pm	Print Post
	It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's). Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with. Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930". In any case, a very nice die-cut! Bill Lawrence
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10624 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #4 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	Here is a tin Ithaca 10 1/4" X 17 1/4" advertisment that I have on the wall in the shop. Got it years ago from an Antique store and not sure if it's an original or not. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #5 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:46pm: Got it years ago from an Antique store and not sure if it's an original or not. Most of these metal signs are repros, & since some have by now been around over 40 yrs, they're even beginning to acquire the look of "age."


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #6 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 3:38pm	Print Post
	Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:15pm: Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930". Don't know about Rem, but Peters began advertising their HV in June of '31.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #7 - Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:02pm	Print Post
	Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:15pm: It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's). Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with. Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930". In any case, a very nice die-cut! Bill Lawrence Remington came out with the "Hi-Speed" name about 1929-30, so I'd guess this is likely around that 1929-30 date for the ad. Remington and others switch to high speed ammo caused some issues. Marlin's model 39 lever action had a somewhat weak bolt that never was an issue with previous ammo. But with the advent of high speed ammo they started getting complaints of cracked breech bolts on the diminutive 39 Marlin. They redesigned the bolt for more strength, and added a "HS" prefix to the serial number of guns made from 1931 forward. They also replaced any cracked bolts with the upgraded HS bolts when people sent them in for repair.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #8 - Mar 7^th, 2019 at 4:11am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 7:02pm: Bill Lawrence wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 12:15pm: It could also be a 1926-1929 box (same source as Vall's). Unfortunately, the only easy way to tell is by the form and location of the load index numbers, which the poster artist, of course, did not bother with. Therefore, since so far I've not been able to find out when Remington started using the term "Hi-Speed", the safest thing to say is "circa 1930". In any case, a very nice die-cut! Bill Lawrence Remington came out with the "Hi-Speed" name about 1929-30, so I'd guess this is likely around that 1929-30 date for the ad. Remington and others switch to high speed ammo caused some issues. Marlin's model 39 lever action had a somewhat weak bolt that never was an issue with previous ammo. But with the advent of high speed ammo they started getting complaints of cracked breech bolts on the diminutive 39 Marlin. They redesigned the bolt for more strength, and added a "HS" prefix to the serial number of guns made from 1931 forward. They also replaced any cracked bolts with the upgraded HS bolts when people sent them in for repair. Vall, The 1910 UMC Remington Arms catalog uses the phrase " High Velocity " in reference to some centerfire cartridges. The 1923 Remington Arms catalog No. 107 uses both the phrases " High Velocity " and " Hi-Speed " in reference to some centerfire cartridges, but has not yet applied it to rimfire cartridges.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #9 - Mar 7^th, 2019 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Thanks BP. My info says the Hi Speed .22 ammo wasn't introduced until the late 1920's. But I'm always open to more data.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #10 - Mar 7^th, 2019 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	So what is the vintage of these?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15771 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington "Best for Pests" advertising Reply #11 - Mar 8^th, 2019 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Dupont purchased Remington during the Depression, so all Dupont marked ammo is post Depression. Then they purchased Peters in 1934. But that box looks like post WWII to me. Maybe late 40's or 50's?

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