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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 710 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	A Pope Mold? Feb 26^th, 2019 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Is this an H. M. Pope mold? Speculation welcome


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 710 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #1 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 9:19pm	Print Post
	A couple more photos...


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #2 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 10:19pm	Print Post
	It's nicely made but has none of the typical, almost mandatory Pope characteristics. I'm going to stick my neck out and guess Beveridge. Bill Lawrence


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1019 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #3 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	Here are three pictures of my Pope 28/30 mold. Kurt
	« Last Edit: Feb 27^th, 2019 at 12:01am by Kurt_701 »
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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #4 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 12:36am	Print Post
	However, it was apparently designed by Pope. Is that what you meant? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 710 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #5 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 12:37am	Print Post
	So my mold has some similar characteristics, but is clearly NOT made by Pope. Well, one can dream Who was Beveridge? And thanks for the clarifications.


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Krag1902 Participating Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2009	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #6 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 8:38am	Print Post
	It's a Yankee bronze mold. I have several and they all follow the same form. 308403 is a Pope designed .30 cal. bullet, but that's the only Pope connection


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OLD TUCK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 469 Location: Middleborough MA Joined: Oct 5^th, 2017	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #7 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 9:46am	Print Post
	smoke, that is not a Pope mold. But it has been for many years been described as a Pope designed mold. Pope molds are typically Nose pour with top and bottom plates. The benefit is really nice Bases, Flat and square. I buy all of these I find. I like the Ideal molds. They are light to handle and heat up quickly. And if in good shape Cast really nice bullets. The Base band on this is back tapered so that you can de-cap, Recap, and throw a Powder charge and then take the bullet and carefully push it into the case and it will fetch up on the Taper. You now have a Loaded shell that conforms to an Amunition rule that at one time required fixed ammo to shoot in some Matches. I do not know how long this rule lasted but when I was a young shooter I often heard of it. By the way it is also a very Tapered Bullet along its length, in my memory the front band will be .304/.305 and the base diameter at it's largest up around .315 on the largest section of the back taper. The one you show looks to be in good shape. Should have a value of $40.00 to as much as $80.00 or more. Some of us Old Timers really like them. I have used them in calibers from 30-30 up into 300 H&H with reasonable light charges and was always able to find a load that will shoot well. HTH, Regards FITZ. OLD TUCK


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OLD TUCK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 469 Location: Middleborough MA Joined: Oct 5^th, 2017	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #8 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 9:57am	Print Post
	Kurt 701, Good to see your 28-30. I have Pope 32-40 just as yours, stamped by H.M. Pope Hartford along the side. He did not do that for very long. I suspect the Blocks were hard enough to damage his stamp and it was the same stamp he used on the barrels just set off enough to leave off the "Rifled By" The interesting thing about Pope Molds is that he must have spent some time finding the right Taper for size as my bullets from two 32-40 Pope molds fit every 32-40 factory chamber that I own and Breech seat beautifully with no modification. Regards, FITZ. OLD TUCK


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #9 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 10:07am	Print Post
	Henry Beveridge was a gunsmith who worked primarily in the second quarter of the 20th century. He was especially known for his custom work, often on single shots, and his bullet moulds. Note, however, that others have correctly identified your mould and proven my guess wrong. Bill Lawrence


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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #10 - Feb 27^th, 2019 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	It's a Yankee Tool Room mold. I've owned several.


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squibshot Junior Member Offline Posts: 58 Location: Massachusetts Joined: Feb 4^th, 2011	Re: A Pope Mold? Reply #11 - Feb 7^th, 2020 at 1:48pm	Print Post
	308403 is a Ideal mold number. The Cherry was designed by H.M. Pope specifically for the 30-06 1903 Springfield rifle. The 308403 bullet with light loads and just seated in the case neck shot extremely well at 100 and even at 200 yards. The base band being .315 was to fill the large throat of the military arm. Find an old Ideal or Lyman loading manual for detail.


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