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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #30 - Feb 23rd, 2019 at 9:55am
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Check out that attached video.   They shot a jacketed bullet and the medium was air.   The inside of the hangar was long enough that the bullet just fell to the ground and skidded to a stop Smiley

I haven't shot bullets into snow but know people who do.   They use snowbanks of relatively unconsolidated powdery snow, not the dense stuff that you can make a snowball from.  It needs to be quite cold to get those kind of snow banks, basically wind drifted powder.  I suspect it needs 30-40 feet of that stuff to stop a bullet.

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Reply #31 - Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:21pm
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Chris, I don't see any video attachment.  Google turns up a lot of bullet stuff but not that. 

Seems like it would take more space or resistance to stop a bullet in powdery snow.  That is a lot of energy to dispel, especially our 500 gr + LR bullets.   Guess I'm from Missouri, ya gotta show me  Cheesy
  

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Reply #32 - Feb 23rd, 2019 at 8:37pm
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Bob here is the mythbusters video.  I thought I'd attached it but was wrong Smiley

This wouldn't really work for us, but it is interesting to watch:

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Reply #33 - Feb 24th, 2019 at 2:01am
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Interesting video. Thanks Chris.
  

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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #34 - Feb 24th, 2019 at 6:10pm
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Figure out how high it will travel. Then get a net and fly around above it until you see it, and snatch it in the net like a butterfly! Smiley
  

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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #35 - Mar 1st, 2019 at 11:37am
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Feb 21st, 2019 at 10:21pm:
Cat_Whisperer wrote on Feb 21st, 2019 at 4:22pm:
CoalCreek Davis wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 9:12am:
If you live in an area with snow, you can shoot bullets into a large drift. Then pick them up off the ground after or as the snow melts. I have done this many times and the bullets are perfect.


I have done this on a frozen river - shooting parallel to the ice the bullet goes through a little bit of snow many times until you find it sitting there on top of the snow.  Great for pistol velocities, a bit of a challenge with the 22-250.  

It took 3 weeks of -10dF to freeze the river.

How far does it take a bullet to stop?  How do you find it? 


With a .357Mag we were shooting tin cans at about 20 paces.  30-40 paces were where we started seeing a rift in the snow with a groove or hole in it.  Took another 10 paces for the bullet to cut a groove in the 1/2" deep snow and curve to the right - and then there it would be sitting on the top encrusted with a few crystals of snow/ice.

  

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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #36 - Mar 2nd, 2019 at 10:47am
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Schuetzendave wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 11:32pm:
The Police Forensic Staff fire bullets into a tank of water to verify if bullets obtained from crime secenes came from the same firearm.


As a retired firearms examiner from a regional state crime laboratory, I have fired countless bullets into water tanks. Water is actually more damaging to a bullet than firing it into tissue, so it is not a good medium for capturing undamaged any bullet but low-velocity FMJ pistol bullets. 

When we fire JHP pistol bullets into a water tank, we take measures to minimize the deformation of a bullet designed to expand. We do not typically fire centerfire rifle bullets into a water tank, as even a 30-30 or 7.62X39 bullet at normal velocity will deform enough to make comparison of the barrel marking difficult to near impossible.

No, water is not a good medium for capturing undamaged a lead bullet traveling even at the relatively low speeds that we push our single-shot target bullets.
  
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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #37 - Mar 2nd, 2019 at 1:59pm
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If you just want to catch bullets with slight damage go to Wal-Mart and buy some yard mulch made from ground up car tires. Fill a cardboard box with this stuff and fire away. About 20 inches will stop anything. 10 inches is fine for a .22 rimfire. Also this method is quiet.
  
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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #38 - Mar 2nd, 2019 at 2:03pm
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Cat_Whisperer wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 11:37am:

How far does it take a bullet to stop?  How do you find it? 


With a .357Mag we were shooting tin cans at about 20 paces.  30-40 paces were where we started seeing a rift in the snow with a groove or hole in it.  Took another 10 paces for the bullet to cut a groove in the 1/2" deep snow and curve to the right - and then there it would be sitting on the top encrusted with a few crystals of snow/ice.

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VEry interesting.  I would not have thought light. fluffy snow would be so efficient stopping bullets.   

jy3855, How did they get a good HP or rifle sample?  Seems like you would have to load them down to where they just fell out the end of the barrel.
  

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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #39 - Mar 2nd, 2019 at 6:05pm
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Scheutzenmeister,

For high powered rifles, we fire full loads into an 8' long "cotton box" packed loosely in the front, and progressively more heavily packed toward the back with long-staple cotton fibers. The bullet picks up a ball of cotton fibers that wrap around it and most bullets stop within 8 feet of cotton. For those that don't, we put phone books at the back of the box and that usually does the trick.

However, even this cotton box results in abrasion of the lead point on soft point bullets. I don't know if it would be suitable to examine the fired bullet for nose slump.
  
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Re: Idea for bullet capture
Reply #40 - Mar 2nd, 2019 at 6:24pm
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Gather up your Pope-barreled Ballards, the custom engraved rolling blocks and treasured Stevens schuetzen rifles and take them to the swimming pool. Shoot them into the water- submerged. That should let the slug out a few feet without hitting anything, then drift to the bottom for easy pick up. No need to thank me. Cool
  
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