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CptCurl Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Botetourt County, Virginia Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2017	Four From Across the Pond Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:34am	Print Post
	I had them out for a little quality time yesterday and snapped this photo with my phone. Enjoy! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) From top to bottom: Alexander Henry .450 3-1/4" Express made in 1871; John Rigby & Co. .40-70 SBN made in 1880 (Yes, .40-70 SBN. Rigby had an active American trade at that time and somebody ordered it.); Army & Navy Farquharson .450-400 3-1/4" Nitro Express made in 1911; and Fraser .303 made around turn of the century. The Henry got some range time on Saturday. Quite a pleasure to shoot. Curl


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 586 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:47am	Print Post
	I am always drawn to the British single-shots. The higher quality rifles with the Circassian walnut stocks and horn forend tips and grip caps, the engraving, ooh ... Thanks for posting the pic, ... very nice!


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Skalkaho Oldtimer Offline Posts: 787 Location: Montana Joined: Sep 29^th, 2006	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Gorgeous Classics,what quality. Have often wondered, is there a reason for the angle cut in forearm? Or is it just the style for these guns during that time when built.Thankyou,Pete

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DWT1885 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 396 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 25^th, 2010	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #3 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 9:30am	Print Post
	Simply beautiful !!! Thanks for sharing. Dale.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #4 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 11:18am	Print Post
	Those are some real beauties! Like Skalkaho I too have always wondered about the odd looking shape of the forearm tips with that angled cut into them? Not sure why it's there, or why it was shaped that way?

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3873 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #5 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 11:24am	Print Post
	You mean the Henry tip like Ruger used? CptCurl, I'm available to be in your will for any of those great rifles!


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #6 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Very Charming !!

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #7 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 12:17pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 11:24am: You mean the Henry tip like Ruger used? Is that what it's called Chauncey? Guess that means Alexander Henry first designed it?

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Remington40x Full Member Offline Posts: 166 Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: Oct 18^th, 2007	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #8 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 1:33pm	Print Post
	That Rigby hammer rifle looks like it cries out for a trip to the woods chasing deer or elk. I'd be happy to take it on such a trip for you.


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3873 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #9 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	Sorry, I already have dibs on that one;-) Yes Vall, it's a Henry thing, You see it is on the Fraser rifle also. Fraser apprenticed with Henry.


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Reverend Al Oldtimer Offline Posts: 568 Location: Victoria BC Canada Joined: Jun 25^th, 2016	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #10 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	Four beautiful rifles and I am envious no end ... I don't mean to steal your thread, but do you (or anyone else) happen to have any photos or drawings of the sliding safeties that were used on English sidelocks similar to the one on your Alexander Henry rifle? Although not a single shot I have an interesting old percussion double rifle built on the Jacobs pattern (by Clayton of London) that originally had a pair of those safeties, but they are both missing. My guess is that they were both deliberately removed as the rifle was used in Africa and the owner "Lt. E. Rogers" didn't want them to accidentally go to "safe" after the first shot on dangerous game? (That could get rather exciting ... what?) The patchbox is engraved in Old Latin and loosely translates to: "From the grateful men of your African Legion 1858" Eberneezer Rogers was with the 3rd Caribean Regiment and received his Leiutenantcy in about April of 1858 so he appears to be the only match to this rifle. Anyway, I'd like to try to have the missing safties replaced and I need some photos or drawings of how the safeties work for reference. Again, my apologies for "butting" into your thread ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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CptCurl Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Botetourt County, Virginia Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2017	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #11 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	Remington40x wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 1:33pm: That Rigby hammer rifle looks like it cries out for a trip to the woods chasing deer or elk. I'd be happy to take it on such a trip for you. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) It really is a remarkable rifle, and so rare. There's a long story behind that Rigby, and if you have the patience to read it you might have a look at this link - you pretty much have to read the whole thread (lots of photos too): (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Curl
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CptCurl Full Member Offline Posts: 191 Location: Botetourt County, Virginia Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2017	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #12 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 1:38pm: . . . Yes Vall, it's a Henry thing, You see it is on the Fraser rifle also. Fraser apprenticed with Henry. That's pretty much all there is to say about the Alexander Henry style forend. It's a Henry thing, and Fraser was his apprentice. I have Donald Dallas' book on Alexander Henry, and I have found no explanation there either. In regard to their No. 1B model, Ruger referred to it as an Alexander Henry forend. That Henry is a shooter. Here's one of the first targets I shot with that rifle: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Let me add, the point of impact is exactly where it should be. For my sight picture I had the bullseye on top of the front bead (like a figure "8"). The group is right at the top of the bead. Curl


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Huvius Junior Member Offline Posts: 73 Location: Wheat Ridge Joined: Apr 12^th, 2011	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #13 - Feb 11^th, 2019 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	I am convinced that the notch on the Alex Henry falling blocks is to tie the sling to the rifle rather than using eyelets. One end tied at the forend tip and the other around the wrist behind the grip cap is what I envision. You will notice that very few Alex Henry single shots have sling eyes and they were made for stalking. Wouldn’t want the sling swivel to tap against the barrel as much of the shooting in Scotland was/is done prone. Don’t know why Fraser did it other than a nod to Henry as the Frasers do have sling eyelets.


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Richard B Participating Member Offline Posts: 43 Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2018	Re: Four From Across the Pond Reply #14 - Feb 12^th, 2019 at 11:35am	Print Post
	CptCurl wrote on Feb 11^th, 2019 at 8:34am: I had them out for a little quality time yesterday and snapped this photo with my phone. Enjoy! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) From top to bottom: Alexander Henry .450 3-1/4" Express made in 1871; John Rigby & Co. .40-70 SBN made in 1880 (Yes, .40-70 SBN. Rigby had an active American trade at that time and somebody ordered it.); Army & Navy Farquharson .450-400 3-1/4" Nitro Express made in 1911; and Fraser .303 made around turn of the century. The Henry got some range time on Saturday. Quite a pleasure to shoot. Curl Would you tell me the serial number of the Henry please ? ...for the Alex Henry inventory thread on General Discussion area … (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Only if you'd like to … Richard Brown Alexander Henry's great great grandson

	Alexander Henry's great great grandson Collaborator on book (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) by Donald Dallas
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