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Feb 6th, 2019 at 1:03pm
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I would like to see a picture of the Ruger Victorian.
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 1:41pm
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Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2019 at 1:46pm
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According to this Rifleman article, the name was only Ruger's tentative, pre-production, terminology for the new SS he was designing--he was evoking the image of the great British SSs of the Victorian period.  There was never a specific model called by that name, according to this piece.

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Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 12:57pm
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I recall seeing an original Victorian stock years ago and it was beautiful. It was covered, I believe, in the 1967 gun digest, to which I do not have access. There was a picture on the front cover of a publication from that area and it may have been the the 67 digest. Ruger modified the stock to make it lighter for the #1.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 1:39pm
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gwahir wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 12:57pm:
It was covered, I believe, in the 1967 gun digest, to which I do not have access.


That's correct--there's a brief excerpt from it in the much later GD piece cited above by JLouis. I checked the several GD Treasuries (collections of previous GD articles) I have, but the original '67 article was not reprinted in any of them.  Maybe the Archives have the '67 ed.

However, this statement does not make it sound like the "Victorian" was marketed as a model distinct from other No.1s:

"Originally, the rifle was going to be named the Victorian, due to its 19th century styling, but not long after it went into production, the name was changed. From the beginning, the actions were stamped “No. 1” and that became the official name."

Most of the very early production No. 1s were stocked in much fancier wood than was later used. 
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 8:36pm
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I have that 1967 Gun Digest and it has an article introducing the "new" Ruger single shot rifle. Viewing it in hindsight, this article by Roger Barlow was obviously thrown together from notes made on a visit to the Ruger factory in Connecticut prior to actual production. There were no complete rifles at that time. The article does have an interesting photo of an assembled barreled action with all the component parts laid out alongside. The closing paragraph made a statement that the rifle will probably be called the Ruger Victorian.
The Digest cover is a painting of a Winchester 66 with a 100th Centennial commemorative Model 94.
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 10:07pm
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RSW wrote on Feb 7th, 2019 at 8:36pm:
The closing paragraph made a statement that the rifle will probably be called the Ruger Victorian.


That word "Victorian" has enormously historic & positive connotations for me, as it obviously did for Bill Ruger; however, it seems wiser of him, on second thought, to have selected a name that did not, where the American public was concerned, call for any special knowledge of "ancient history."  Doubt there were very many US buyers of the No. 1 who were well versed in the history of British SSs.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 7th, 2019 at 10:48pm
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I think whether buyers know the history of a name or not doesn't affect the number of guns sold. Ruger sold a bunch of Bisley Model SAA style revolvers, and the vast majority who bought them had no idea what the Bisley name meant.
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 1:05pm
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Gentlemen, thanks for your input.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 17th, 2019 at 9:24am
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When did the No1 switch from the Red recoil pad. I see rifles listed with red  and grey. WW
  
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