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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Fred Ross Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2019 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	s.s.jeff wrote on Jan 25^th, 2019 at 6:17pm: At some point of his life he was a sheet metal worker and installed furnaces. A useful & honorable trade, but, what a sad waste of his exceptional skill & talent.


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1011 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2019 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Where “what books” would I find info on Ross. Ledball


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Fred Ross Reply #17 - Jan 26^th, 2019 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	ledball wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 8:48am: Where “what books” would I find info on Ross. Ledball Several books mention him, but none I know of have anything to say beyond his association with Stevens & his marksmanship. Possibly some biographical details could be found by searching Shooting & Fishing.


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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Fred Ross Reply #18 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	The archives have a number of letters between Pope and Ross all the way to 1913. Very friendly and Ross asks Pope to help sell a number of rifles for him. Copies should be available thru the archivist.


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2057 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Fred Ross Reply #19 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	This is from the cover of the last SSR News, I believe that this is Fred Ross;


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2057 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Fred Ross Reply #20 - Feb 2^nd, 2019 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	This is detail from a schuetzen match in Jersey City New Jersey; #13 Fred Ross, #14 Harry Pope #15 Mike Dorrler;


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2057 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Fred Ross Reply #21 - Feb 3^rd, 2019 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	Here's another photo of Harry Pope and Fred Ross, as well as Ross shooting offhand;
	« Last Edit: Apr 24^th, 2019 at 2:12pm by Schutzenbob »

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1692 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Fred Ross Reply #22 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:22am	Print Post
	So there is a good chance that Fred Ross worked on my Helm high wall that was rebarreled with a Stevens-Pope barrel, serial #1849??? It has Pope style, left hand twist rifling, cal. 32-40.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #23 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	Old-Win wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 11:22am: So there is a good chance that Fred Ross worked on my Helm high wall that was rebarreled with a Stevens-Pope barrel, serial #1849??? It has Pope style, left hand twist rifling, cal. 32-40. Yes. Pope's last barrels ended around 1350 if I recall correctly. Ross ran the barrel making for Stevens after Pope left, so yours is likely done under Ross' supervision. Mine in .32-40 Stevens-Pope on a Ballard is around 1700 range, and likely under Ross' era too.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2839 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Fred Ross Reply #24 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	So Vall that makes the heavy barrel .22 low wall I got from you a Ross bbl too? Jack

	ASSRA # 11318 just a bit of a hoot.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #25 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	Yes Jack. If it's after around 1350 it is.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2839 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Fred Ross Reply #26 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	The barrel # is 1778 Jack

	ASSRA # 11318 just a bit of a hoot.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16274 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #27 - Feb 4^th, 2019 at 9:34pm	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on Feb 4^th, 2019 at 7:59pm: The barrel # is 1778 Jack Have to check my Stevens-Pope-Ballard. I think our barrels were made very close to each other!

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #28 - Feb 5^th, 2019 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	From the LA Herald article on Hudson, but shows several of Ross's records.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Fred Ross Reply #29 - Feb 5^th, 2019 at 2:17pm	Print Post
	Oodmoff an interesting part of Ross History virtually unknown to me and I want to thank you for taking the time to share it with us here. I always thought of him as just being a barrel maker and his competitive shooting abilities were a real eye opener for me.

	" It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be "
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