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Red Cent Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: Benton, KY byway of WV, VA, NC Joined: Dec 25^th, 2016	Why would I pay........................... Dec 27^th, 2018 at 8:03pm	Print Post
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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1582 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #1 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Cuz Money is no object?


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #2 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 9:04pm	Print Post
	If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #3 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	What Brass is it you are specifically being overly concerned about I believe that I somehow missed your point when I clicked on those links?. JLouis

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2368 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #4 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	It's a common cartridge but it's still made the same way, same cost. I'm sure (think) there are a few that want it with that head stamp? - they've been asked to make it??? It's not that I can't afford it- I won't- too many other directions that I part with my $$

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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2282 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #5 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 12:50am	Print Post
	This is an interesting topic. I have a drawer with several bags of 30-30 brass in it, some is Winchester, some is Federal....friends have given me this stuff. I usually shoot 32-40, and my favorite cases are Federal 30-30's which have been sized in a 32-40 die and then fire-formed. The 30-30 cases are slightly shorter than 32-40's and then after fire forming, I trim the mouths of cases to square them up. I have never found any problems from shooting 30-30 brass in a 32-40. Is there something here that I'm missing? Is there any advantage to shooting a slightly longer case?


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1827 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #6 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 7:35am	Print Post
	Are you aware that these are lathe turned brass out of bar stock?


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 636 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #7 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 8:07am	Print Post
	Wish them all the luck, but the good folks at Rocky Mountain have a tough time making a go of it.... Not sure why anyone would want to go that route for 38-55, but outfits like this are handy for someone to get a box of brass for some oddball gun that brass isn't readily available for.


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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1582 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #8 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 8:54am	Print Post
	I’ve gotten .22-15-60, .25-25 and .32 Ideal brass from them, and it’s good stuff. If you don’t want the “default” dimensions from SAAMI or COTW, they will change them for you at your request. Full marks to anybody with the cojones to get into the obsolete brass market. As unhappy history has shown, it isn’t the high road to riches and fame.


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1303 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #9 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 9:16am	Print Post
	Schutzenbob wrote on Dec 28^th, 2018 at 12:50am: This is an interesting topic. I have a drawer with several bags of 30-30 brass in it, some is Winchester, some is Federal....friends have given me this stuff. I usually shoot 32-40, and my favorite cases are Federal 30-30's which have been sized in a 32-40 die and then fire-formed. The 30-30 cases are slightly shorter than 32-40's and then after fire forming, I trim the mouths of cases to square them up. I have never found any problems from shooting 30-30 brass in a 32-40. Is there something here that I'm missing? Is there any advantage to shooting a slightly longer case? Using cases shorter than spec can cause feeding and accuracy issues, so it depends on how often you clean, what you are shooting, fouling ........ You get a carbon build up where the neck should be in the chamber, so basically you change the size and shape reducing it randomly. Most common problem would probably be hard chambering or extraction mixing long and short cases. In theory you could probably end up with pressure problems if you were shooting max loads.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #10 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 9:19am	Print Post
	Would be surprised if this isn't a sideline for a shop whose cash flow comes from other business. Price reflects what they can make using those CNC lathes for that other business. Ten years age when I retired a typical chargeout rate for a small CNC lathe was $75/hr. (I was buying machine tool time quite often in that job.) Gotta be closer to $100 by now. CAD time ditto.

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2605 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #11 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 9:30am	Print Post
	If I wanted something special, like everlasting style cases for instance, then I could see going this route. Chris.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18053 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #12 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Roberson is not Rocky Mountain Cartridge, although both companies make their brass the same way. As for why, I'd say it's not something the majority of shooters would pay for a fairly common case. But I know some serious shooters who used RMC lathe turned brass for extremely common calibers like .45-70, where they could have bought the brass for 1/4th of RMC's price. They just wanted the highest quality they could buy, and had the extra funds to do so. I bought an estate of a shooter who only bought the finest guns and loading accessories. He owned Shiloh Sharps and Ballard Rifle Co. single shots, and his brass was all RMC. I sold most everything, but decided to keep the RMC .45-70 cases for my own use. Not sure I'm a good enough shooter to appreciate how good this brass is, but it certainly is the best brass I own. I have RMC brass for my .44-100 Ballard and a few other oddball cartridges. But I'd never pay the price for RMC or Roberson lathe turned brass in common calibers, unless I got a great deal on them used.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #13 - Dec 28^th, 2018 at 12:41pm	Print Post
	If they were the only ones who had it and you didn't have any why wouldn't you.

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cheatin_charlie Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 427 Location: ohio Joined: Jan 10^th, 2009	Re: Why would I pay........................... Reply #14 - Dec 29^th, 2018 at 6:19am	Print Post
	This would be a good option if you wanted a reduced capacity case for instance. Say a 32-40 with same capacity as .32 Miller Short to experiment with.


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