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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2037 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	30-30 wesson Dec 24^th, 2018 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	I have lost my information and load data on my Wesson and my memory ain't what it used to be so anyone have a starting load for 165 gr cast? Thanks JMH


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #1 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	Jim, I have breech seated data, with a 170 gr bullet. It's the only load I tried with that bullet, the rest are a 184 gr, BSed, also. 11.5 gr #9, 1509 fps, 7 1/2 Rem primers, 26" bbl. Reduce to 10.5 max, for fixed, in your LW. I'd start at 9.0 and work up. If you use 4227 or 4100/Enforcer, I think you can add 1/2 gr. 296/H110, can also be used, starting a 9.0 gr. Frank

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #2 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	Frank, do you think that load might be acceptable in my 2 trigger Wesson rifle? Aaron

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2037 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #3 - Dec 24^th, 2018 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Thanks Mr Frank. I wrote it down this time! Maybe I can keep up with it. Got a few days off so wanted to spend some time at the range. JMH


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #4 - Dec 25^th, 2018 at 2:08am	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on Dec 24^th, 2018 at 8:04pm: Frank, do you think that load might be acceptable in my 2 trigger Wesson rifle? Aaron I have no idea, as to how strong those are or their twist rate. Just as a guess, you might try 7.5 gr #9, or 8.0 gr of 4227, with about a 130 gr bullet. That shouldn't produce much pressure but, again, just a guess. Be careful. Frank

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #5 - Dec 25^th, 2018 at 9:32am	Print Post
	Thanks Frank, Merry Christmas, Aaron

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2037 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #6 - Dec 26^th, 2018 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	Mr Frank, Tried 11gr of IMR4227 with a 165gr bullet but am getting a lot of unburned powder. This is fixed ammo. This is what I had on hand. Accuracy was nill at 100yd from a rest. About 2 inches. What powder should I try? Willing to buy what I need. Also any sources for better store bought bullets? Thanks JMH


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #7 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 2:05am	Print Post
	I got my best accuracy with #9 powder. #9 is generally available in my area now so, hopefully it will be on your area, too. Use 7 1/2 or F205M for primers, If you can get H108, it has the same burn rate as #9 At the same charge weight. If your getting unburnt powder with 4227, that generally means low pressure so, you may be able to go up, one more grain. If you have a chronograph, stay under 1500 fps. My best load was at 1476 fps but with 184 gr bullets. Frank

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 30-30 wesson Reply #8 - Dec 27^th, 2018 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	The 30-30 Wesson was one of those tried by several knowledgeable and dedicated competitive individuals in our group with very little to no success so I wouldn't set my expectations to high but have fun with it in trying.

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