Here are some example of calculators not doing flat base bullets justice. JBM which uses the Miller formula and Berger bullets because they publish the specs needed for the calculator and recommended twist for each bullet.
These are both .243 Varmint bullets # 24313, 24321. Berger recommended twist is 1/12.
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Stability
Input Data
Caliber: 0.243 in Bullet Weight: 69.0 gr
Bullet Length: 0.919 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 3000.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 12.0 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.046
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Input Data
Caliber: 0.243 in Bullet Weight: 69.0 gr
Bullet Length: 0.919 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 3000.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 9.8 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.584
Something that has a shape more like something that you could cast.
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Input Data
Caliber: 0.243 in Bullet Weight: 80.0 gr
Bullet Length: 0.913 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 3000.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 12.0 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.236
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Input Data
Caliber: 0.243 in Bullet Weight: 80.0 gr
Bullet Length: 0.913 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 3000.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 10.5 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.614
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150 grain .308 #30407, recommended twist 1/15
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Input Data
Caliber: 0.308 in Bullet Weight: 150.0 gr
Bullet Length: 1.155 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 2800.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 15.0 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.150
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Input Data
Caliber: 0.308 in Bullet Weight: 150.0 gr
Bullet Length: 1.155 in Plastic Tip Length: 0.000 in
Muzzle Velocity: 2800.0 ft/s Barrel Twist: 12.5 in
Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Output Data
Stability: 1.656
That's why they don't recommend it for flat base