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Stevens 44 questions
Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:20pm
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I have a Stevens 44 that confuses me. It's a parts gun - an assembly of at least two parts. The barrel has a 4 digit serial number and no other markings on it other than the  serial number. The barrel started life with a seven oclock extractor but has been "modified" to use the six oclock extractor of the receiver. There is a small "open space" next to the present extractor where the seven oclock extractor was. Thus my first question - is this open space in the supporting metal around the base of the case dangerous? I haven't had time to have the chamber cast yet so I don't know what the barrel / rifle is chambered for. The bore appears to be .312. The chamber accepts a 32 S&W long case, a 32-20, and GOK what else.  Given the 4 digit serial number and the original seven oclock extractor, is it likely / certain it started life as a black powder gun? If it's chambered for the 32 S&W or the 32-20 can it handle REASONABLE smokeless loads? The receiver (and the barrel/bore) is in nice condition and has a five digit serial number which I assume is typical for 44s with six oclock extractors. The lever has a spring loaded plunger in it to hold the lever up. It also seems to put some tension on the extractor which impedes putting cases in the chamber. Is this a typical result on the 44s with plungers?
  

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Re: Stevens 44 questions
Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:51pm
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As a Right Reverend who has officiated at the unholy matrimonies of several masses of disparate parts into Stevens 44s, here are some ramblings:

It is eminently possible to file or grind the lower inside of a 7:00 extractor receiver to take a central extractor, or, conversely, to grind an extra gap on the side of a central extractor receiver to take the 7:00, if the breechblock and extractor are available. A simple straight milling cut would also do for the extractor space on the 7:00 barrel; a slightly more complicated angled cut on a straight extractor barrel to accommodate a 7:00 extractor.  The barrels for 44s I’ve seen might not index close enough to satisfy a “serious” target shooter, but every unmodified one I’ve seen will come up to +1/8th or +1/4th of a flat (a little too far, if screwed tightly), but hold satisfactorily with the set screw and headspace and shoot well enough for my modest wants, or better.

Is your barrel round?  The only way the caliber and Stevens logo would normally not be present on a Stevens barrel would be if somebody turned the octagon part to full round.  Or perhaps they got an aftermarket half-round barrel and stamped the serial number on it.  It is strange, however, that they didn’t stamp the same serial number as the action on the barrel if this was a shop-made job.

Modern brass has a thick enough web so I would doubt you would get into trouble with any loading safe for a 44 action.  If it is an original barrel, it’s probably a .32-20 rather than any of the S&W clan.  But with Stevens, you never know for sure.

Your lever plunger should impinge on the link, not the extractor.  You’d have to look inside to see what’s going on there.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 questions
Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2018 at 10:21pm
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
If it is an original barrel, it’s probably a .32-20 rather than any of the S&W clan.  But with Stevens, you never know for sure.


Actually, you can be sure it was never (unfortunately) originally chambered for the S&W clan...so it must be .32-20. 

.32RFs are easily reamed to accept .32 S&W, but of course there'd also have to be a conversion to CF.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2018 at 10:33pm
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Stevens did offer the 32 Long C.F. on special order.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 12:39am
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Seems to me that what the O.P. describes is a early .32-20 barrel screwed into a later (i.e. 6:00 extractor) frame.

I have one very early half-octagon barrel (actually a 108 barrel) that is unmarked except for serial #, so that's not unique.  The 4 digit serial number opens up the possibility that it's that early.

I wouldn't like to leave the old extractor notch unfilled.  If all else were copacetic, I'd weld it up and remachine.  Or set the barrel back far enough to obliterate it and rechamber.  

Knowing the two serial #s would help.  

The barrel s/n puts it close to the transition from black to smokeless.  With the extra notch repaired, the gun will be perfectly safe for reasonable smokeless loads, circa 1400 fps, assuming that it breeches up tightly.  If it doesn't, installing oversize link pins (4mm) will help a lot.   

The lever plunger doesn't impinge at all on the extractor.  

I have a Savage-era 44 that began life as a .32 RF, but was rechambered to .32-20 at some point.  The slow twist is a giveaway. (22 for .32 RF, vs. 16 for .32-20.)  If the O.P.'s gun is another such, the smith who cobbled it up may have done a poor job of reshaping the extractor.  

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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 8:46am
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BP wrote on Nov 13th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Stevens did offer the 32 Long C.F. on special order.


No doubt, as the sky was the limit for special orders.  But the .32 CF case was the same diameter as the RF case, so the chamber would still have to reamed to accept .32 S&W.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 questions
Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 11:09am
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From the few Stevens round barrels I've seen, the rollstamps of Stevens markings are often lighter on round barrels than they are on octagon or half octagon. But serial numbers always seem to be stamped deeper.
So it is possible the barrel was polished before rebluing it, and the original markings polished off, but serial number remains. So this is indeed an earlier barrel, but might have always been a round barrel, and just over polished.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 questions
Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 2:30pm
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Many thanks for your responses. 
   
The four digit serial number on the barrel is 2484. The 4 at the end of the number is somewhat washed out but I think it's right. The serial number on the receiver is 57x09. There is a bolt head where the x is. I think it's filling in a tapped hole. From its location directly below the wood screw in the upper tang I'm guessing someone tried to put an upper to lower tang bolt in it. The barrel is an octagon to round and is 30" long. The octagon section is 8" long.  Again, many thanks!
  

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Re: Stevens 44 questions
Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2018 at 3:28pm
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2484 s/n puts that barrel in the 107/108/et.al period.  Real 44s don't start until about 3000.  30" long, too!   

The 57x09 frame # puts it into the "teens", before WW1 and Westinghouse.
  

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