ASSRA Forum - Looking for experience (other people's)

ASSRA Forum › General › Reloading the Single Shot Rifle › Looking for experience (other people's)

(Moderator Group: Moderator)

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

Pages: 1

Send Topic

Looking for experience (other people's) (Read 2397 times)

Red Cent Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: Benton, KY byway of WV, VA, NC Joined: Dec 25^th, 2016	Looking for experience (other people's) Nov 6^th, 2018 at 4:31pm	Print Post
	I have a Marlin 336 in 38-55. 26" barrel with Ballard rifling. 1:18 twist. Played around with a bunch before I got the C Sharps (38-55). Today I was in the reloading shop and I noticed I had some cast 310DT tapered bullet. I am the second owner of the Marlin and the first owner apparently had the Marlin "fix) done ("throated"). I can easily chamber a 250gr seated out as far as she can go and not touch the lands. The barrel slugs at a touch over .379 and I have got the groups down to around 1 .75 + at 100 yards. Normally, 2". A bunch of stuff was done to the Marlin per M McPherson's book. Mounting the 336 in the rifle clamp, I picked up an as cast bullet, and dropped it into the chamber. Then I took a case that I had rigged before that would place the bullet 1/16" in front of the 2.08" case. Some pressure needed when I got to the .379 band but the lever closed and is not bent Pushing the bullet back out, the lands have made skid marks on all but the base driving band. Will this be a problem? I realize I may get some leading and the hot stuff may screw up the base, but I want to try some. Drop tube style, OE FFG to the top of the case weighs 50.9 grains. .030 Walters wad and I am good to go. Is there anything to be concerned about with the base band "hanging out back" other than disappointing accuracy...maybe. I have rigged up a blow tube so I can fire ten rounds without wiping. Heaev forbids it works, duplex here I come.
	« Last Edit: Nov 6^th, 2018 at 4:46pm by Red Cent »
	Life is too short to argue with stupid people and/or drink cheap booze
	IP Logged

svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #1 - Nov 6^th, 2018 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	This seems excellent place for advice and info for what works and what does not for breech seating. After all, the question asked pertains to a "specially" throated barrel and how the rifling engraves a bullet. And the rifle happens to have a built-in breech seater. Not to mention that most schutzen rifles are lever guns.


	IP Logged

marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18055 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #2 - Nov 6^th, 2018 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	The "Marlin fix" done to most of those guns ruined them. Most shoot piss poor after the monkeys get done screwing with the chambers.

	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
	IP Logged

marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18055 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #3 - Nov 6^th, 2018 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	How do you breech seat a 336? Use a plugged case and force the bullet into the bore using the lever? That will result in a bent lever on a 336, and then you'll have two problems.

	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
	IP Logged

P1 Junior Member Offline Posts: 98 Location: Bradford, Pa. Joined: May 14^th, 2015	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #4 - Nov 7^th, 2018 at 6:24am	Print Post
	Red Cent I certainly understand your point, I was called obnoxious for mentioning modern theory! But, I for one would be interested in hearing about your results with breach seating your lever gun. Since you are getting the bullet seated without bending the lever why not seat the bullet until the base band is engraved? Nothing says a bullet must be seated 1/16” only.


	IP Logged

oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1361 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #5 - Nov 7^th, 2018 at 7:54am	Print Post
	I saw the original question was not strictly Single shot, but it seemed a legit question related to breech seating and a question about safety. If you have NO pertinent information related to the post, even if off topic, don't reply . and the thread will die off.

	Life Member ASSRA, OGCA & TSGC I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters........ Frank Lloyd Wright
	IP Logged

frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #6 - Nov 7^th, 2018 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	I believe that there has been a procedure used in the past, regarding posting OT threads. Correct me, if I'm wrong Moderator's but, you contact a forum Moderator and ask if you can post something OT. You then state at the beginning of the thread that it's been OKed by a Moderator. Frank

	ASSRA Member #696, ISSA Member #339
	YIM AIM IP Logged

frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Looking for experience (other people's) Reply #7 - Nov 7^th, 2018 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	Regarding R C's question, the chamber should be at least 2.12 long. It's not the case that determines the BSing length but, the chamber and throat and DIAMETER of the throat also. So, I'd say that your at least .040 short and the base band of the bullet could be to small and cause leading. You need to know how large that re-throated throat is and use a base band, .001 larger and no smaller that the throat diameter. Frank

	ASSRA Member #696, ISSA Member #339
	YIM AIM IP Logged

Pages: 1

Send Topic

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

« Board Index ‹ Board Top

Page completed in 0.9642 seconds.