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Reply #15 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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Rebel wrote on Oct 30th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
and the vig.

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What's a "vig" Aaron?
  

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Reply #16 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm
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I was referring to the auction premium.
Must be a Yankee term.

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Reply #17 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 6:26pm
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Rebel wrote on Oct 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
I was referring to the auction premium.
Must be a Yankee term.

Aaron


I looked it up on Wiktionary and it said it's a small fee placed on bets by bookies. Never heard the term out West?
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 7:18pm
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marlinguy wrote on Oct 30th, 2018 at 6:26pm:
Rebel wrote on Oct 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
I was referring to the auction premium.
Must be a Yankee term.

Aaron


I looked it up on Wiktionary and it said it's a small fee placed on bets by bookies. Never heard the term out West?


Add "loan shark" to the mix and see what pops up.
  
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Reply #19 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 7:46pm
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Geez, bunch of choir boys.

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Reply #20 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 7:48pm
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and while we're on the subject....in the early 60's I used to dream about finding a good but plain 32-40 Ballard that I could afford. In fact, in the early 60's nobody had a good but plain Ballard for sale, and it seemed that even if someone had one, they wouldn't sell it to me anyway. Today, I have several good but plain Ballards, and so I think of them as my dream guns. I didn't buy them as an investment, I bought'em 'cause I wanted to shoot'em, and now you could say that at last my dreams have come true, or at least some of them anyway. Cool
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Reply #21 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 7:50pm
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same for me, and if they're interesting to me, the condition is secondary too. (but not too ratty)

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Reply #22 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 8:21pm
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Collecting in almost every field has been experiencing a significant downturn for the last few years. There are two reasons: the lack of a "middle class" and lack of interest. Without interest in the subject matter, there will be no money spent.
In the 1960's, when I started collecting things, many people who were active in collecting were middle class blue collar workers in the manufacturing sector. they had nice houses, good insurance and pensions, and money for boats, cars and guns. Jobs at GM and John Deere were considered excellent career choices. In the last few years, wages in manufacturing have been barely above minimum wage will few if any benefits. This is starting to turn around, but there is also the fact that there is a general lack of interest in collecting among people under the age of 50. Not saying they are bad people, they just do not have the interest in old stuff. Antique collecting has taken a huge hit, stamp and coin collecting has taken a huge hit, and so has interest in hot rods and guns. Interest might come back if prices get to the point where more people can afford to get in, but as far as guns are concerned, there are a lot of huge collections that are being liquidated because the owners are dying off or downsizing. My advice is, if you like it and can afford it, go for it, but do not spend your money on collectibles as an investment. Just my 2 cents. Joe S
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 9:33pm
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Take a good long slow look around you at your next singleshot match.
How many young'uns do you see... who will be jumping into the line to buy your singleshot(s), if they're not suffering too badly from continually increasing PLOI (Parasitic Loss of Income) due to increasing taxes, subscription service fees for all the electronic gadgets and apps, etc, etc, etc?     Wink
  

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Reply #24 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 9:35pm
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Vig--vigorish.  I've always heard it when dealing with loan sharks.



























  
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Reply #25 - Oct 30th, 2018 at 9:39pm
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I guess I knew when I was in high school that I was weird for collecting guns. At least most of my friends told me so. I worked as many hours as possible then at an Albertsons bakery and used my money to buy .22 pump rifles, and pay for my car. 
I've always shot, and always collected guns. It's just been a hobby that I wondered why others didn't do? In my early days all the guys who had great stuff were gray haired. Now all the guys who have great stuff are still gray haired.
I don't think the age of collectors has much to do with collecting. At least as far as it changing. It's almost always been done by older guys, and mostly because people had more money after the kids left home, and they were stable in their jobs. I know my collecting interests have changed as those things changed for my wife and I.
  

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Reply #26 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:06am
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I don't collect, I accumulate. Roll Eyes

I have made lame attempts to "collect" Ruger single shots and Mauser pre-war 22 sporters over the years, but have pretty much given that up too.

The accumulating part is easy it's the de-cumulating that I'm in the middle of that's been hard, especially, as has been noted, in this much softer gun market.

Th daily struggle continues . . . . .
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 8:21am
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Remember, "He who dies with the most stuff wins".
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Reply #28 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 10:58am
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westerner wrote on Oct 31st, 2018 at 10:41am:
Collecting the things you love makes you live longer. It's healthy to collect single shot rifles. Collecting makes you smarter and your friends and enemies will admire you for collecting. Your status in society is elevated when you're a collector. There is no limit to the amount of single shot rifles a collector can own.  It's also important to remember there is no limit to the amount of X wives you can have. So keep soldiering on collectors. Soldier on.



                      Joe.


100% true Joe! On all accounts! I'm fortunate to have a wife who supports my hobby of collecting and shooting the guns I collect. 40 years next year, and she still puts up with me and my hobby.
  

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Reply #29 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 2:51pm
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I'm primarily a shotgunner and have noticed the same thing with sxs shotguns.  Guns that were out of reach 15 or 20 years ago have dropped in value by significant amounts in actual (and not just absolute) dollar terms.  The highest grade guns in the best of condition continue to attract interest, but lesser grade and lesser condition guns almost can't be given away.

Furniture of some styles is in a similar state.  When we moved my 94 year old mother into an assisted living facility, we tried to donate her near mint condition solid cherry early American style bedroom set (bed, dresser with mirror, chest of drawers, armoire and two end tables) to three different thrift shops, none of which would take it.  No interest in their customers for such furniture.

It's not going to get better, either.  Enjoy what you have, shoot it for pleasure, but don't expect to get rich selling it.
  
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