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Reply #15 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:57pm
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I'm sure you're all tired of seeing this raggedy old target; Undecided
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Reply #16 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:59pm
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One other thing to consider is factory built schuetzen rifles. Marlin made more factory schuetzen ready rifles than the other makers did. Consider that up until 1890 when Marlin quit building the Ballard rifles, they offered a huge variety of schuetzen models, and in a wide range of price.
So the shooter looking for a schuetzen ready model who couldn't afford a custom built gun from one of the famous gunsmiths, could purchase a entry level Union Hill #8 or #9. Or he could step up to a #6 Schuetzen, or even higher level #6 1/2 Rigby. Add to all of these the various sub models, and options, and Marlin really did cater to the schuetzen competitor who wanted a factory ready gun.
Stevens did much the same in the late 1800's, but that was after Marlin flooded the market with their Ballard models. And not long after Stevens went full bore into doing the same as Ballard, interest in schuetzen began to wane. 
Winchester's offerings in the schuetzen ready rifle were always less than Marlin Ballards or Stevens models.
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:47pm
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OK, the Ballard in the top of the photo has me a little bit puzzled.  What is the purpose of the flat arm and ring that is attached to the receiver and adjusted to be in alignment with the front trigger?  My guess is that it would be to rest your trigger finger on it before you touch the lightly set front double set trigger?  Or does it have some other function?
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:52pm
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That was my thought , too.
Indeed, looks like a finger rest for help in controlling that
fabulous Ballard trigger. 
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Reply #19 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:46pm
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beltfed wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
That was my thought , too.
Indeed, looks like a finger rest for help in controlling that
fabulous Ballard trigger. 
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Possibly, but I think this gadget & similar ones I've seen were most needed when the trigger-pull had been reduced almost to the point that wishful thinking would cause it to release.  At least, I never felt I needed something like this with an unmodified Ballard DS adjusted down as light as would go.
  
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Reply #20 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 9:15pm
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That Ballard with the finger rest is the C.W. Roland rifle that he used to shoot the record group shown in the photo above.
  

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Reply #21 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 10:20am
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The ring on Rowland's Ballard was indeed a finger rest. That lever appears to be either a modified #6 ball and spur, or a copy made similar to an original Ballard ball and spur.
Anyone know where Rowland's Ballard is today?
  

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Reply #22 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:02am
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Amoskeag Auctions might know the status of that rifle. If memory serves, they handled the sale of that rifle a few years ago.
  

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Reply #23 - Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:32am
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I believe the finger ring acts like a fulcrum and helps to insures the same finger placement from one shot to the next. Myself as a match moves forward I find my finger placement unconsciously changing and having to correct it. I have considered doing something similar in hopes it woulld provide one less item to concentrate on, help provide the same finger placement and the fulcrum increased trigger control.
  

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Reply #24 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 4:40am
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Interesting that only the center rifle of the three has a palm-rest shown.
  

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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 9:45am
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SSShooter wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 4:40am:
Interesting that only the center rifle of the three has a palm-rest shown.


CW Rowland was foremost a benchrest shooter, so not surprising most of his guns would be for that type of shooting.
  

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