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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 118 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Sep 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	I found a ballard up for sale , and i am a sucker for single shots especially the ballard... this one is in 32-25 cal? I will be phoning the shop tomorrow to confirm but never seen one in this caliber?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #1 - Sep 17^th, 2018 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	It doesn't exist--probably a .32-35, predecessor of the .32-40.


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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1459 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #2 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 8:17am	Print Post
	I think the .32 Ideal was sometimes called the .32-25. You can buy empty shells from Rocky Mtn. Cartridge Co. I relined a shot-out Stevens 44-1/2 .32 RF to .32 Ideal and am playing around with it. The cartridge is certifiably Cool.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #3 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 9:31am	Print Post
	Bent_Ramrod wrote on Sep 18^th, 2018 at 8:17am: I think the .32 Ideal was sometimes called the .32-25. You're right! Never heard of it being called that, nor knew it held only 25g. until I looked it up just now.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16137 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #4 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 10:15am	Print Post
	cdnrokon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm: I found a ballard up for sale , and i am a sucker for single shots especially the ballard... this one is in 32-25 cal? I will be phoning the shop tomorrow to confirm but never seen one in this caliber? Wonder which model they think it is that they refer to it as a "Hunter"? That terminology was attached to more thn one model, but the #1 1/2 would be the most often referred to as a Hunter. But it was never offered in that caliber that I know of? More likely it would be a #4 Perfection in that caliber, especially if it's a full octagon, as the #1 1/2 was a round barrel.

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 118 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #5 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Well I bought it.... I should have it sometime next week. I will post pictures and info when it get it.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7278 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #6 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	If it turns out to be a rim fire, there is one other possibility. Frank

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #7 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Sep 18^th, 2018 at 1:09pm: If it turns out to be a rim fire, there is one other possibility. Frank The buyer will find that amusing, I'm sure; just as amusing as my discovery that a supposed .22LR Stevens I once bought was actually a .25-20SS! How could ANYONE be THAT stupid you ask? If you ask that, you haven't been around enough gundealers.


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terry buffum Full Member Offline Posts: 147 Location: Bend, Oregon Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #8 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	Frank, to reinforce your point about some dealers not knowing what they offer, some years ago I bought a three barrel Bullard set, supposedly all .22. When it arrived, it turned out to be .25-20, .25-21 and .25-25.

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xtimberman Full Member Offline Posts: 172 Location: N. Texas Joined: Mar 26^th, 2010	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #9 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	Maybe .32 Extra-Long CF? That one shot heeled bullets and a chamber cast might confirm that? Grant writes a little about shooting that cartridge in his first book. A .32 Ideal Ballard would be a delightful find and easier to work with.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7278 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #10 - Sep 18^th, 2018 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	xtimberman wrote on Sep 18^th, 2018 at 5:39pm: Maybe .32 Extra-Long CF? That one shot heeled bullets and a chamber cast might confirm that? Grant writes a little about shooting that cartridge in his first book. I think it would need to be the Wesson 32 XL (the case that the 25/20 is based on) to be able to hold that amount of powder. If so, it would be a really great find. Frank

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16137 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #11 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 11:54am	Print Post
	If the Ballard turned out to be the #2 Hunter, and caliber turned out to be .32 Long, it would not be 25 grs. of BP. Even the .32 Extra Long would not hold 25 grs. of BP, and was listed at 20 grs. of BP. Hope it's not a #2, unless the price was pretty cheap, as the #2 is certainly not as valuable as the forged frame Ballard rifles are.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #12 - Sep 19^th, 2018 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Best mistaken caliber and rifle I bought was advertised as a Stevens 22LR lever action single shot at a buy it now price of $100.00 on Gun Broker. What I received was a Stevens Pope 28-30, wood and case colors 98% condition, 0441/2 action, half round to octagon, original Stevens tang sight. In short a very beautiful Woodchuck rifle that someone on this site now owns. What I expected to get as a worst case for the price was a wall hanger to put over the fireplace. If memory serves me right the new owner was writing up an article on the rifle and he posted a picture of the rifle on this site quite sometime back. JLouis

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 118 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #13 - Sep 26^th, 2018 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	Well Frank is the winner ...I was happy to just find a Ballard for sale at a great price... then the shop told me it had reloading dies... i said I would take it. The Canpar depot guy says that I have two boxes to pick up and the small one was heavy. Not only did it come with dies it came with 94 loaded rounds. inside the box was the target showing a group shot at 100yds the dies had load info, bullet size weight, and instructions on case prep. The brass is starline 357 magnum. Dies are Lee 32 S&WL-J9 If i can find how to resize pictures , I have a bunch
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7278 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Ballard Hunter odd caliber?? Reply #14 - Sep 26^th, 2018 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	What a find! We diffidently need pictures!! It will be the first that I've ever seen, in 32 Wesson XL. Frank

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