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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18049 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Front stuffers and substitute propellant Reply #30 - Sep 21^st, 2018 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Gunfunpow wrote on Sep 20^th, 2018 at 2:31pm: Wow! Msd's for black powder? Really? Your intelligence should warn you not to eat it, smoke it, or use it for anything other than what it was designed for. I wonder about the old timers on high looking over our shoulders at these remarks, rolling around, laughing their butts off! Like marlinguy, I had the same negative experience with pyrodex and a 51 navy colt (2nd gen). I just use swiss for rifles and trip7 for revolvers. Doesn't mean I'm not open to new advances in propellants or anything else, like cell phones, etc. I'm sure there's plenty of guys still alive who are laughing at the MSD thing for gun powder too. I know I'm chuckling.

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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: Front stuffers and substitute propellant Reply #31 - Sep 21^st, 2018 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	For those that might enjoy a more complete overview of the "BP subs" facts and issues... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) An astute reader might notice that the inventor of Pyrodex, Dan Pawlak, had much more than the "small" market for muzzleloaders in mind, that is until it killed him, as it has others.


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blackpowder Junior Member Offline Posts: 87 Location: Blooming Valley PA Joined: Jul 20^th, 2018	Re: Front stuffers and substitute propellant Reply #32 - Sep 21^st, 2018 at 2:49pm	Print Post
	I have been shooting, almost exclusively, flintlocks for 40 years. I have had 2 BPCR guns and now the new to me 1885 40-70 Ballard. I have never shot any of the sub powders and most likely never will. I have blackpowder guns and for me, that is what they should be shooting. however that is me. to each his own and whatever works best for you.


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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: Front stuffers and substitute propellant Reply #33 - Sep 21^st, 2018 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	blackpowder wrote on Sep 21^st, 2018 at 2:49pm: I have been shooting, almost exclusively, flintlocks for 40 years. I have had 2 BPCR guns and now the new to me 1885 40-70 Ballard. I have never shot any of the sub powders and most likely never will. I have blackpowder guns and for me, that is what they should be shooting. however that is me. to each his own and whatever works best for you. I shot only Swiss FFg and 1,5Fg in my BPCR rifle because that is what is required and would have done so anyway cause Swiss has always worked will for me when smaller groups at longer ranges were required. In other situations, I sometimes used 777, especially when both Swiss FFg and 777FFg gave equally good groups at the target. For muzzle loader seasons I used Pyrodex FFg because it shot smaller groups that Dupont FFg. Today I would likely use 777FFg. Have used both Pyrodex FFg and 777FFg for trap shooting in 12 bore hammer doubles that shot good patterns with fiber and card wads (because those old guns had bores designed for good Mod and Full patterns with such shotshells). Even won BP trap one year at SASS annual in AZ.


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