Maybe because they have never found a substitute powder that was as accurate as as black

40 Rod

I don't think the fake black powders work in flintlocks so have never bothered with them.  I do know from my brief experience with Pyrodex in a 40-70 BN that it is actually more corrosive than black powder.  Harder to clean too.

George

You guys need to step into the 21st century.  Try some Blackhorn 209 in your muzzle stuffers.  Sorry it doesn’t work with flint locks.  I shoot this in my Hawkin and Forntier percussion.  Never give up anything to the BP shooters and usually top them.  And this is with patched RB’s.  Can’t understand the resistance to using this stuff.  I use it in all my BPCR guns, too. Yes, it’s expensive, but much kinder to my nice rifles. Nothing against BP shooters, but been there done that.
Mike.

When these threads pop up, as they do often, nothing changes. Pyrodex is taken as the arch-typical BP sub and roundly put down cause it rusted guns used by lazy "I won't have to clean my gun" shooters. I too used Pyrodex for years, in .54 TC muzzle loader, 44-40 and 45 Colt Rugers, Husqvarna hammer doubles made from 1920s to 1940. Because I grew up with BP cartridge rifle, I did the usual complete cleaning. NO PROBLEMS. Lots better than the nasty Dupont and later Goex BPs!!

Then 777ffg came out and it was much better than Pyrodex and the shoddy "real" BPS in all ways. Over following 15+ years I alternated 777FFG and Swiss FFg (the only real BP I will even consider using). Down range and otherwise the results were much the same.

Not been active since the Blackhorn 209 appeared. Hear lots of good things about it from those that use it and something like total silence from the Real BP Addicts.

I never got into the substitutes as I always figured smokeless was the most efficient substitute for black so why mess around if I wasnt going to just do black. To each their own. Some are probably as good or better than black in certain applications. For me, shooting thousands of rounds in competitions that dont allow substitutes vs a few rounds hunting where I can shoot what I want- the subs just never made sense. Your mileage may vary.

George Babits wrote on Sep 10^th, 2018 at 9:49am:

I have never heard of one the would work in a flintlock.   

No reason to use fake smoke with smokeless powder for BPCR 

KFW wrote on Sep 11^th, 2018 at 8:27am:


"creditable shoot" would seem to cover a lot of territory. You probably already know that the "major" BP matches only allow traditional BP or Pyrodex, an old BP sub whose performance has been markedly exceeded by 777 and reportedly by Blackhorn 209 (which I have never tried).