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Reply #15 - Aug 12th, 2018 at 12:51am
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It is odd, but pistol recoil doesn't seem to bother me but the biggest was a 44 Mag and I never shot a lot of competition with a handgun.  I always shy away from 3 1/2 mag and any rifle bigger than an 06.  As Fredrick Sellous, great white African hunter, said of the 4 bore, I wish I had left it alone.  I spoiled my offhand for life.  Cheesy
  

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Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 11:20pm
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It's not recoil sensitivity, its "shoulder mirage" caused from the heat waves from burning 70 grains of powder versus 20 grains!   Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 9:18am
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I'm not a fan of recoil in pistols either. I found the factory .41 mag and .44 mag loads very abusive. Both were fine with my moderate handloads though.
  

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Reply #18 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:04pm
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I never minded recoil in high power revolvers. I believe that some of the guys that shot automatics were the ones most likely to belllyache about the hard kickers. Figure it's because they shoot with a tighter grip to help the monkey motion of the auto's functions. The revolver responds well to a looser, absorbing method. Who, knows, I could be all wet here. But, I never saw action pistol guys doing as well in silhouette shooting nor vice versa. Bullseye shooter could go either way, I'd guess.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 12:36pm
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For benchrest competition I found the 38-55 to be brutal and the 32-40 to be quite pleasant. Powder choice also plays a part in it as well back when I was shooting competitive trap and some skeet going from Red Dot to 800X made a significant difference in felt recoil. At the time I was out practicing three days a week plus shooting the weekly match and meat shoots and I ended up bruising my shoulder pretty bad. Doc.said I would have to stop to let it heal but the switch to 800X made continued shooting very doable or I should say by far more bearable.
  

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Reply #20 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:26pm
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Back in the day when I thought I 10' tall and bullet proof, I did some work for a guy in exchange for one of Dick Casulls new hot rods, the 454.  We were shooting sillywetts at the time and it performed exceptional on the rams -and then some - it ruined bowling pins.  Smiley  A shooter friend of mine happened to be a Dr. and when I went to him complaining about my wrist aching he slapped me up along side the head... Newton's third law applies - for every action there is a reaction.
I shoot this less and less it seems and when I have to, it's with loads that don't do it justice, just save a handful of Dick's loads back for when an image of my younger self feels they have something to prove.  Grin
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Reply #21 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:32pm
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A friend had one of those 454s.  He had some kind of problem in his chest.  A doctor told him even the biggest men should not shoot it more than a few shots in a session because  that level of recoil could cause trauma to organs   Shocked
  

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Reply #22 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 5:21pm
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Plenty of doctors think any contact with a gun must be associated with something bad. Plenty of other things that could shake a person up that they seem to ignore- motocross anybody?
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 7:07pm
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With rifles the bigger concern is with detached retina's and two of my friends have suffered from such.

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Reply #24 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:53am
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JLouis wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
With rifles the bigger concern is with detached retina's and two of my friends have suffered from such.

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What were they shooting?
  

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Reply #25 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:56am
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westerner wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 10:22pm:
Sunday morning was shooting the second half of a 100 shot OH match.  Patty was sitting to my right reading a book.  Once between shots she commented that she loves to watch me shoot. She said I look so powerful and confident and handsome when I shoot.  In my deepest most confident voice I said thank you sugarbabe.  


Recoil? Did someone say, recoil?  Huh

Sounds like the hook is set  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #26 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 5:47pm
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westerner wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:08pm:



If you go down the shotgun racks at a trap shoot and click all the safeties on , (don't get caught), you will soon see that it makes little difference what sort of gun is fired. We all anticipate the gun going off.  Has little to do with recoil. 



                         Joe. 


I suppose that is why trap guns have almost no choke  Grin

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Reply #27 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:03pm
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BobZ I don't recall what cartridges they were using AC Gould was shooting BP Ctg benchrest matches and not real sure what Jerry Ceave had been shooting. What I found interesting was both detachments were in their right shooting eye and often wondered how that might have been related. Both had to re-learn to shoot left handed and both now typically shoot a 25 or at times a 28 and understandably so and maybe AC Gould will chime in I am not sure if Jerry visits this site.Jerry is the Schuetzen Meister for the Central Sierra Schuetzen group and AC is a member in ours.

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Reply #28 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 8:31pm
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Various of my older friends have suffered detached retinas but were never target shooters or addicted to heavy recoiling guns.

So far as I know, detached retinas are generally result of weakened attachment of retina to underlying tissue. However, seems rational that any tendency toward loosening of retina can be helped along by heavy recoil or other adequate, suddenly applied physical force. 

At least two older persons I know had both retinas detach over only a few years. One had to be removed from his office by local acute medical personal when second retina extensively detached while he was sitting at his desk, leaving him totally without any useful vision.
  
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Reply #29 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 10:44pm
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Rifle recoil is really a minimal risk compared to old guys riding trail bikes.
  
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