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Greasing the Barrel?
Aug 8th, 2018 at 8:24pm
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A bit of advise is needed if you please.  This weekend I cast my first bullets and loaded up my first 22 rounds of 38-55.  Not having any lube I am thinking of greasing the barrel between shots.  Something like: run a bore mop down the bore with grease stopping before the chamber, running a patch from breach to muzzle, fire a round and repeat.  This is just to get me shooting and yes, in the future I  plan on lubing the bullets.  Thanks, David  Smiley
  
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n.r.davis wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
A bit of advise is needed if you please.  This weekend I cast my first bullets and loaded up my first 22 rounds of 38-55.  Not having any lube I am thinking of greasing the barrel between shots.  Something like: run a bore mop down the bore with grease stopping before the chamber, running a patch from breach to muzzle, fire a round and repeat.  This is just to get me shooting and yes, in the future I  plan on lubing the bullets.  Thanks, David  Smiley


If you have the bullet lube you can pack some in the grooves with your fingers. It's messy and slow but it can be done and may be easier than what you plan. Of course, if you had the lube you could pan lube much easier.

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Reply #2 - Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:25pm
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Dave, there is always a lot of opinions on different Lube formulae. But it can be very basic and still work. I for many years used a Lube that was 50/50 Bee's Wax and Yellow Petrolatum (Yellow Vaseline) You can find the Vaseline in a Drug Store in the Baby section. It worked very well for me.
It is stiff enough to be used with Pan Lubing. Or if it's too stiff you just soften it up by adding a little more Vaseline. Not too much, start slow. HTH Regards, FITZ. OLD TUCK. Smiley
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:11am
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I do not recommend putting grease in a barrel as it could raise pressure dangerously. Pan lubing using a double boiler is the way to go. Check your groove diameter and bullet diameter.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:34am
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I always grease my barrel interior after cleaning to keep the first round from leading a dry barrel, so far no problems and no leading. I once tried patching between rounds with a patch lightly soaked in automatic transmission fuild, again no problems but the rifle was not very accurate as such, that being my quest. Good luck whatever method you try.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:58am
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Thanks for the suggestions.  I gather that I will not blow myself up and yes greasing the bullet before loading is the way to go.  This will get me shooting on Sunday, maybe I will even hit the target! David
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:24am
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NAH! Joe re read his last post. He is going to find a way to apply the lube to the Bullet on our advice. FITZ, OLD TUCK Wink
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:37am
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For decades I carefully lubed bores on BP hunting rifles for two reasons: 1) to prevent rusting of dry bores during often rainy hunting days and 2) to minimize, sometimes eliminate issue with 1st shot deviating from normal grouping because of clean, dry bore. This was a thin layer of same lube as used on lead bullets. 

From my personal experience with lubing rifle bores, for same reasons as I note above, when using nitro powders, I would not be surprised that such lubing before each shot will be adequate. I would not expect it to be fully equal to properly lubed lead bullets when using BP.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:59am
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Its easy enough to make up a perfectly adequate lube out of cheap and easy materials to find look at the lube formulas at the top of the page. pan lube them up and your ready to go.
I do when starting a new barrel rub lube into a patch and run it through the bore a few times to get it started but don't get carried away.

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Reply #9 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:39pm
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I just remembered a comment in "The Irish Rifle Team in America" by A.B. Leach. In a description of the Shooting procedure for 800,900,and 1000 Yards. He describes the Shooter taking his place on the firing line and getting in position. If the Coach gave him Sight adjusting direction he made them. And then waited for the Coach to tell him
"Now would be a good time to Fire" He would then tighten up his position and squeeze off the Shot. He would then get up and wait  for the Score value. He would then retire from the line to clean and OIL the bore of his Rifle for the next time he was to shoot.  Note: Clean and Oil the Bore This with straight Black Powder at real Long Range distance. SOooo maybe there 
is a possibility that Oiling the Bore could be not such a bad thing. Not how I would shoot but then I have never fired at 1000 Yds. with Black Powder. Smiley
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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My lube is mainly 50% bees wax, with 40%Crisco and 10% Vaseline by volume, not weight. I can put a bit more Crisco in it and make it sift enough to spread with my finger, or a bit less if temperatures are very warm and I want it firmer.
It can easily be used to lube bullets by hand before seating them, and should make I a lot less likely to lead up the bore too.
Even just putting Crisco in the lube grooves will lube the bore better than wiping it with grease before each shot.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 5:36pm
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westerner wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:28am:
"A bit of advise is needed if you please."

So the whole point of your thread is to tell us you don't really want our advice, you're going to do it your way anyway?
Joe.  Smiley


I couldn't have said it better. He needs to reinvent the wheel again. LOL
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:07pm
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Am presuming that OP's use of word "grease" is at least as vague a word as "lube". Probably lotsa overlap between "grease" and "lube".

Watching fellow BPCR shooters wipe their bores with a "dirty" piece of "rag", aka "patch", routinely left me a bit "queasy" about doing that to bore of my rifle -- kinda like mopping kitchen floor with a dirty, greasy mop. Never took part in any 1000 yd shooting with BP rifles, so remain free of any bias.

Cleaning and "oiling" bore, as cited by OLD TUCK sounds SO rational. In any case, who are we to question a national Irish Sharpshooter re "oiling" bore of his 1000 yard target rifle? I was always taught to "oil" bores of my hunting rifles after I had cleaned them. Sounds "just right" to me. What did Mr. A. L. Beach do to his rifle when it was again his turn to shoot? Maybe Mr. Davis is actually, perhaps incidentally and with less planning, following in Mr. Beach's footsteps.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:59pm
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Making lube is so easy, I would mix a batch and pan lube or hand rub it on before I tried greasing the bore. I found t a little light coat being wiped out by the front band will matter much.
  

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Reply #14 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:02pm
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For what it's worth, I dissolved some bullet lube in xylene to use to put a thin layer of lube in the bore before firing the first shot. I used a pepper sauce bottle and had to put the mixture in hot water to get the lube to dissolve. Since then it has stayed in solution.

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