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Reply #15 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 8:10pm
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The names on Rook rifles are the retailers who are only occasionally the actual maker


I realize that. Most your Birmingham guns are Liege, and most your London guns are Birmingham. I know the martini is a Francotte, it is stamped right on the side. I have done some research on  McCririck, he was a gunmaker in Scotland. Not a big producer so possibly his work. It has a mark on the barrel. Have you seen this before Fred

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I happened to have the WR with me at the last Safari show in Vegas. I talked the WR guys into let me bring it around to show it to them and ask their opinion. They said they made it and would get back to me with any information they could find. But unfortunately the records for the rifle were last in the war as were so many others. 

I just to go by whats written on them, Thanks
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 9:02pm
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I would gladly collect any and all rook rifles I could find--  so far I've had to satisfy the urge with a Westley Richards Martini Cadet (310cf).
They are excellent examples of the maker's art and few remain in shootable condition today.  I continue the search.
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 5:39am
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Lovely collection Fazer the .450 and the 32/40 not classed as  Rook rifles the .450 often know as Kangaroo rifle but  both for much larger Game than Rooks  and nests in the Trees or Rabbits . Even the Sherwood which I think is a  great Cartridge is over the top really and was used in Park land for the smaller species of Deer although not legal now.

Good Shooting all of them?  TJ.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 6:40am
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I have never seen the mark, Fazer. I have seen a couple of break action rifles in 300 Sherwood so some early 20th century customers thought it was a Rook cartridge. I do, however, agree that it is way over the top. I shoot mine (a Martini) a lot even though it is a difficult cartridge to load. The shallow taper on the case is effectively a morse taper and and can stick in the breach. Any small oversize section will cause the round to be impossible to chamber. I use a conventional three die set, but de-cap separately and the sequence is: re-cap, add powder, neck expand, seat and then full length re-size. My usual load is 10grn of Reloader 7. First time I used this rifle at Bisley, I won a 100yd off-hand competition with it.
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Reply #19 - Jul 30th, 2018 at 2:07pm
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Here's mine in .300 Rook. All Belgian, no names or marks other than Belgian proofs and a serial number. Simple grooving/outline engraving. I use 32 Long Colt brass and a BACO .300 bullet.
Thinking about it being unmarked, could I speculate that it was made for the British trade but never made it across the channel? Or have you seen other unmarked Belgian ones?
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Reply #20 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 10:19am
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Here are a couple of mine:

Bailey Bonehill 360No.5
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H&H 360 No.5 with some paper patched loads I made up.
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Webley '02
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W.W. Greener 310
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Wilkes 300
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Army & Navy 300
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Westley Richards Deeley Edge patent 320
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W.W. Greener 310 double
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Reply #21 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm
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Too nice! Love the 1902.
  
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Reply #22 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 7:40pm
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oneatatime wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 6:04pm:
Too nice! Love the 1902.


Thanks!  It is a lovely rifle.
It had been rebored and chambered for 357 mag. when I bought it and I had John Todd engrave it for me. 
It really is a great little rifle.  One that will hopefully never leave the family.
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 9:34pm
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Very nice, I am very impressed. I have a 310 WR sporter similar to your Greener , but the 310 double is to die for. Very nice.
  
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Reply #24 - Aug 19th, 2018 at 11:03pm
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Thanks to all of you for posting pics of your rook rifles. As one who has never had the pleasure of seeing one up close and personal it was a treat. Never see anything even remotely like that down here in Louisiana. And having said that my only two British 22rf's are a BSA model 12 or 12/15 I bought many years ago when I lived in NYC and a BSA 22rf barreled action I bought here on this forum. Thanks again,Frank
  
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Reply #25 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm
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Huvious,

My moustache stood straight out when saw your Webly '02. Would love to see some more pics of it.

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Reply #26 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 8:47pm
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I've only gotten to fondle one of those round block 1902s but it could not hold a candle to yours. My 1902 is the large economy size.
  
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Reply #27 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 11:13pm
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The other side of my Webley
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This is how it started out.
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Reply #28 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 10:23pm
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Thanks for posting. 

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Reply #29 - Aug 31st, 2018 at 11:12pm
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They are all beautiful rifles but the one that intrigues me is the Reilly on the Tranter patent.It looks like a simple action that might be somewhat easy to make. Does anyone have any info on these? Thanks, Paul.
  
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