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Gunfunpow Full Member Offline Posts: 239 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2018	Black powder powder measure ideas? Jul 24^th, 2018 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	I've looked all over for a decent powder measure for black powder and was wondering what everyone else uses. I'm not a match shooter, but I do want accuracy. So I don't need top notch big$$ measures. I just need consistent, accurate and reliable measurements. Lyman? Hornady? RCBS? Thanks a lot for everyone's help!


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2601 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #1 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	I've used a few different ones including the ever popular Lyman #55. The MVA is, by far, the best IMHO. Chris.


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1824 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #2 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 6:30pm	Print Post
	I use the Lyman 55 to good effect with BP. Checking on my scale, the 55 dumps my Swiss 1.5 Plus Minus a couple tenths of a grain. beltfed/arnie


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #3 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	I use a Lyman 55. If you really want cheap, use a ML measure and strike off the top or a dipper and do the same.

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sharps Participating Member Offline Posts: 35 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #4 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	only used the lyman 55, older saeco an a manual Dillon like the 55 for black, seems to meter the black slicker than smokeless


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Flatlander Oldtimer Offline Posts: 705 Location: Warm Arizona Joined: Apr 24^th, 2004	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #5 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 9:04pm	Print Post
	Have used a Belding and Mull since 1989 with no complaints. My $0.02 worth. Flatlander

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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1188 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #6 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	Drum-and-tube measures are potentially the most reproducible, but you need to learn how to use them to get the best results with BP. When rotating the tube down to fill (handle up) DON'T bang it against the stop, as this settles the BP irregularly into the tube. I install a small rubber stop in my measures to ensure that there is a soft, gentle stop at this point. The reason that the B&M measures usually give good results is that the cumbersome procedure of operation FORCES you to do everything right. Few powder scales are precise enough to reliably detect variations in weights of powder delivered by powder measures. Don't fool yourself here. If you can achieve a standard deviation of 0.1 gr, it is about as good as you can hope for. This takes good measure technique AND well-sifted powder. I weighed a considerable number of dumps with a laboratory balance and had a SD of about 0.15 gr. This corresponds to around 1 fps velocity SD, other things being equal, with usual BP silhouette ctgs. CHRIS RGChristensen


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #7 - Jul 24^th, 2018 at 11:34pm	Print Post
	Quote: Drum-and-tube are potentially the most reproducible, but you need measures to learn how to use them to get the best results with BP. B&M Ideal No 5 Lee Perfect Ohaus Goex FFg 0.23 0.29 0.48 0.35 Swiss 1,5 0.64 0.11 0.19 0.29 Goex FFg 0.13 0.19 0.14 0.11 SD 0.27 0.09 0.18 0.12 Test - Average grains difference of 10 drops


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Gunfunpow Full Member Offline Posts: 239 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2018	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 9:15am	Print Post
	Thanks for your input guys, it's very much appreciated. I get the impression that any measure I obtain needs to have it's SD determined before I start weighing charges. I use a Dillon electronic scale, which has been very accurate with all the smokeless loading I do. I'm sure it will work well with black also. Chris, I think if can get to the point of 0.15 gr. SD that would be terrific! Thanks for setting me up with some parameters. Does everyone use a micrometer charger on their measure?


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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 636 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #9 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 11:34am	Print Post
	The Lyman DPS 1200 3 is the most consistent, of all the measures I've used, altho there's no small chorus of fans of the RCBS charge master.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7648 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Black powder powder measure ideas? Reply #10 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 1:16pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jul 25^th, 2018 at 1:06pm: I use my Redding most. It's the most accurate Joe. Joe, have you tried your new measure with BP or compared it with the Redding for accuracy? Frank

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