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Reply #45 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 7:15pm
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Went out and took a couple of pictures of the only old cans that are left that show the rusting on the tops. One crystal light container that I have been keeping the 4227 in is at the rear of the rusted tops. The other picture is that cabinet on the right the two cabinets are about 6 inches apart and I think the chemicals in this cabinet may be the problem. Gun solvents and cleaning supplies.
What do you think?
  
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Reply #46 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 7:25pm
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Here's a good link to file somewhere safe

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I know I have a couple empty #1 jugs. PM an address and I should be able to get the lids out first of the week. How many do you need?

$100 worth of powder bought 3-4 years ago was probably only a pound or two.
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 7:34pm
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Frank the bigger question is did you know that or did you have to go look it up?
  

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Reply #48 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 8:13pm
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JLouis wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 7:34pm:
Frank the bigger question is did you know that or did you have to go look it up?

Look what up? I've used 4227, since 1985. I've had very can that it came in, since it was Dupont 4227. The can I pictured, I won in Spokane, at least 4 years ago. 

Hodgdon changed IMR 4227, to H4227, about that time but, kept the IMR name on it. That's what started this thread. IMR 4227, is different than H4227 but, H4227 is all that they market but, under the IMR name.

It's easy to tell, if the can says made in Canada, it's IMR 4227. If the can says that it's made in Australia, it's H4227.

I buy all my 4227, at gun shows now but make sure of where it was made.

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Reply #49 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 8:59pm
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Very can or every can Frank you are starting to confuse me? I gave up on 4227 years ago and for all I know it may now come in a Ruffles Potato chip can? I gave all that I had to a friend who talked me out of using it to green up my lawn.
  

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Reply #50 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:09pm
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And another thread ridden off the rails and crapped in by folks who can't figure out why membership doesn't grow and new people won't go to shoots to meet the sour faces behind the keyboards.  Shocked
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:20pm
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No sour faces at our matches some of the best folks one could ever hope to meet! That other fellow on the other hand won't even attend his own they all seem to cheat according to him.
  

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Reply #52 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:22pm
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Years ago I transported bore cleaning solvent in the same container I had a sleeve of primers. A week later I separated them and most of the primers were duds. Learned my lesson on solvents and shooting supplies. I am sure storing cleaners with the powder is doing you no favors. My thoughts.
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Reply #53 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:27pm
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Flatlander totally agree! 

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Reply #54 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:52pm
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JLouis wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:20pm:
No sour faces at our matches some of the best folks one could ever hope to meet! That other fellow on the other hand won't even attend his own they all seem to cheat according to him.

I was trying to be polite with the sour face comment.

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if you think for a second, that your time and knowledge presented on this forum is not overlooked at times because of the way you present yourself, your a damn fool.

There are a select few, that seem to look for ways to poke each other in any threads they end up in together. Honestly it gets in the way of people who would like to learn and carry on the traditions.

Keep it in off topic, where it seems a whole section was created for no other reason than to give the spoiled children a place to play. Where poor behavior is tolerated, where instigators are more than welcome to stand in a circle and blame the other guy for breathing their air.

Many days there is just to much crap to sift through around here to want to try to participate. Take a good honest look at your posts and tell me again it's the always other guy.
  
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Reply #55 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:52am
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Because then all of it will cut too many grains Joe

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Reply #56 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 9:49am
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Linda,
Looking at those cans with fine reddish rust on the EXTERIOR of the caps and Unpainted tops of the old square cans shows that for sure its an environment/fumes/???
around the cans that is causing the rust.
Could be an acidic cleaner for example. 
As has been said, if there is no acidic smell, and no red
dust inside the cans with the powder, and you can still smell
acetone /solvent odor, the powder is likely not deteriorating
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Reply #57 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:46pm
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The powders were never stored in a cabinet with chemicals and solvents but there is another cabinet with like items thats obviously too close. I've never been able to figure out what the component was that caused the problem but very careful and aware that it did happen and we don't want it again. I'm limited on space and have a lot of powder that makes it a problem.
I appreciate all your help and have found locally my lids that I was looking for.
Thanks again
  
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Reply #58 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:07am
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A year or 2 or 5 ago I read about problems with chinese sheet rock corroding plumbing etc. Any chance that might be the problem?
  
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Reply #59 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 7:54pm
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I've owned that particular sheet rock for 23 years and have no idea if it's domestic or foreign, but doubt very seriously that its the culprit.
  
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