Nothing really wrong with the rules all though they could be a bit more user friendly in these times and not more stringent as some are now proposing over a simple question asked and then fully answered. Like Joe mentioned I will just keep using the same as he and continue to go out and compete with what we both have been using for to many years to now worry about.

I'm the same, in person, as I am here. I speak my mind, especially, when it comes to rules. Rules are what put EVERYONE on the same play ground and they are what make everything even and fair.

Now, when the Traditional rules where made, there weren't commonly available Traditional scopes available or the class couldn't have come to be but, with iron sights so, they allowed more modern external scopes. That's not the case any more, there are now scopes available that meet the criteria and no, I hold no interest in the people that make them.

I see used STS, offered, here on the forum for the same price that you can buy a new MVA and they are snapped up, within a few days so, I really don't see where cost is a consideration.

Yes, you'll also need a scoping scope but, we use them for IS matches, anyway.

My only concern, regarding the rules is that the sights do not match the equipment, for the time period, making it unfair for the ODG's, at can't speak for themselves! I'm sure they would have a fit about being taken advantage of

Change the rules to iron sight only and I'm good to go. Most shot that way, anyway.

Frank
Advocate and lobbyist for the ODG's

John D Kelly was one of those ODG's and he used a 20X Sidel Scope why do you keep neglecting to accept that fact? 

JLouis

JLouis wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2018 at 8:10pm:

So, go out and buy one or make a faithful copy.

Frank

Well Frank I guess there are those who still think the world to be flat and just won't except reality.
For one so dead set on doing what the ODG's did you are not even close with your fast twist and heavy bullets or your equipment. 
And there were available scopes the Sidle being one of them being used but it or those now like them just do not fit your own personal agenda so maybe it's time you split off and start your traditional miss lead group.

JLouis

fallingblock,

That's one, where are the pictures of the rest of them?   

frnkeore wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2018 at 2:34am:


Exactly--just as the caption of the photo (p. 122) says it is.  Another 20X Sidel is shown on p. 115, both straight-tube designs.  They were around, but in wide use--no. 

For a selection of the kinds of scopes most shooters were using, look at the equipment list on p. 69; highest power listed is 6X.