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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #150 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	Just to clearify a minor point ... BPCR rules require "clickless" micrometers on external adjustment scopes. MVA sells their "Malcomb-type" 3/4" scopes with "clickless" micrometers. I no longer recall reason why. Use both kinds and find no real difference -- kinda silly rule.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #151 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Those who compete know the rules same as in any sport and for those who don't click on the below and spend sometime reading them. They surely are not as difficult to understand as some would try to make them out to be. Any gray areas are left up to the discretion of the match director or the ASSRA Schuetzen Meister and if not sure of something just ask. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #152 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jul 25^th, 2018 at 3:06pm: I like clicks. I'm used to them. I started out using rifles with clicks. I'm sticking with clicks. You run the matches at Tacoma, Bob. You should know all about the traditional rules. It's your job! Joe. I like clicks too. Just for moving 1/2 MOA, not for setting the scope, quick, close enuf and easy. When moving my front windgage sight without out clicks, I give it about a click too, 1/8 turn +/- I followed all the traditions Bill Crane and Chuck Bordman set before me. Most were good enuf WE did have 2 Traditional Matches at Tacoma. Bill's iron sight trophy (ASSRA rules) and the military musket match (all original Trapdoors, Snyders, RB, ect.)

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #153 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	I'm as straight as an arrow on the rules the way I read them Joe Only a slight modification of Local Traditions required

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2767 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #154 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	Joe, No separate class but the Eagle trophy goes to the best offhand iron sight score at the spring match. It requires a traditional rifle with traditional sights and traditional ctg You know the trophy Joe. The one with your name all over it

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #155 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Barely enough shooters to have a match these days. Not enough shooting iron sights to continue the 2 I mentioned above. Not enough shooter shooting offhand to have the ASBR, ASOH, ISBR, ISOH aggregate.

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #156 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	That IS trophy was ASSRA traditional rules. They never did have a traditional class unless it was in the ISSA Regional when they did it.

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #157 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:20pm: You have to have two classes for the entire match now, Bob, Modern and Traditional. Has nothing to do with TR&R T rules. You have to do it. It's your job! I don't remember ever being asked what class I wanted to shoot in at TR&R. Joe. What difference does it make if there is no separate awards or scoring? Nobody ever asked me either in the 20 years I shot before Bill and Chuck retired.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #158 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	It was an item each individual entered when filling out their equipment sheet. I have not seen one being handed for quite sometime now. Used to be provided one for every ISSA Regional event. JLouis

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #159 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 8:39pm	Print Post
	Sad but true Westerner I believe they refer to it as progress. But on the other hand what the Hell the open class has nothing on us in the accuracy dept. and still fun for me to beat up on. JLouis

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #160 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 10:25pm	Print Post
	The zip gun shooters know when they are beat by a Ballard or HiWall SAme as the cap gunners in ML know when the flinters show up

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watchthewind Oldtimer Offline Posts: 948 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Mar 10^th, 2015	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #161 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 10:27pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jul 25^th, 2018 at 9:00pm: Yes, we will press on and continue to beat up on the modern rifle shooters. It is our duty as traditional rifle enthusiasts to do so. Joe. It's amazing what can be accomplished with a Ballard and a Low Wall Scott

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watchthewind Oldtimer Offline Posts: 948 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Mar 10^th, 2015	Re: Traditional rifle scope rules Reply #162 - Jul 25^th, 2018 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jul 24^th, 2018 at 9:36pm: Frank I know you have a tremendous amount of passion in what you have to share and I highly encourage you to run for an open seat on the board of directors where you can actually get something accomplished. It is not going to happen here and along with Scott Elliott we would then have two West Coast representatives and look at what Scott alone has accomplished for this sport. JLouis Thanks for the kind words and encouragement John With the convergence of mentorship, opportunity, hard work and support I've been able to make a few things happen. Which has lead to some growth and recognition for our sport. I would be delighted to see a second ASSRA board member in the western part of the USA. Single shot activity is plentiful throughout "The West" and it is growing. Let's foster growth throughout the country. Best Regards, Scott Elliott

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