I have been under the impression that for the traditional rifle class, the scope tube is limited to 3/4" diameter. I have several Lyman Super targetspots which I use, but I also have a Unertl 24X with the larger diameter tube. Is it legal for Traditional rifle? I reviewed the rule posted online and see no requirement as to the diameter of the tube.
Thanks!
Joe S

LYman Super Target Spots have a 3/4" tube
So do many of the Unertls, Feckers, Davis,
beltfed/arnie

Just wishfull thinking, but perhaps someone would see their way clear to make a modern copy of some, a Sidle perhaps!

Here's the applicable ASSRA statement: Any pre-1917 externally adjusted telescopic sight or faithful reproductions thereof. Lyman, Unertl, Fecker, and Litchert scopes are specifically allowed.
Maybe the confusion comes from the rules for BPCR:
(b) No length or power limitation on the scope. Scope tube body to be
3/4” or less in diameter and any ocular or objective lenses, adjusting
or assembly rings to be less than 1” in diameter.
(c) No Internal scope adjustments for windage or elevation.
(d) Mounts are to be of the traditional style of the period, and contain the
windage and elevation adjustments for the scope in either, or both,
the front or rear mounts. No click adjustments in the mount. Either
dove tail mounting or scope block mounting is allowed.
Original scope mounts of either the Cataract or Malcom style or
variations thereof, or replicas or derivatives of either style, are
allowed provided the replica or derivative conforms to the criteria
of paragraph (d) above.

oneatatime wrote on Jul 20^th, 2018 at 12:03pm:

We've discussed this in the past, several times and in the end, it always comes down to a matter of convenience and not tradition. Most people don't like to shoot scopes that adhere to the BPCR rules. Some BR shooters feel they need to clearly see the grain pattern of the target stock before their "Traditional" scope is good enough for them and say that it effects their accuracy if they can't see the target at that level.

When the rules where written, there was some reason for the Fecker and later scopes but, now you can get what was a commonly available type scope, before WWI.

Yes, I know that there were SPECIALTY scopes that had larger bells on them but, can anyone fine a picture of their use in shooting matches? Those type scopes are above the league of even the 1" 36X Unertl Programmers, in their day. 

Last point. The Traditional rules say that  Lyman, Unertl, Fecker, and Litchert scopes are allowed but, what about Mitchel and Davis or other commercial or custom made external type scopes?

Frank

I have no issue with click adjustments.

Frank

blindeye
As stated in the ASSRA rules on traditional rifles, your 80 year old (rust is optional) Lyman TargetSpot scope is perfectly acceptable.

Calm down, Blindeye. It WAS ASSRA that imposed the prior to WWI rule. The rule was to allow shooters to shoot the same type equipment as the ODG's. They gave the more modern scope exception, as I recall, because of difficulty of finding scopes, at that time.

I know that the ODG's, would have loved to shoot a STS or 1" 36x Programmer, in their day but, sad as it is, they couldn't. I'm also sure that they wouldn't have liked going back to 8X or so, after using them, too. Not to mention that not all TS's are dim.

As you say, not many are effected and it doesn't keep anyone from shooting in a match but, it does keep from being on the same footing as the ODG's.

Respectfully,

Frank