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Reply #15 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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Probably gone the way of the dirt floor bar.

My dad liked his beer and he and I visited a fair number of taverns in Michiana when I was a kid.  And while I never ran into a dirt floor (nor would I have expected to), there were a few with sawdusted floors.  In fact, when I first came to the Fair City in which I still live, nearly 53 years ago now, there was still one bar here that used sawdust - and also served the best cheeseburgers I've ever eaten.  Sadly, it closed in the the early '70s and I still shed an occasional tear over it ala Redsetter.

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Reply #16 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:37pm
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Different times for sure Ehh Redsetter but one could sure make a fun time out of it when playing back the tapes to the adults. Some of the Men and Women back in the day were just as loose as some those are now they just didn't realize they were being unknowingly caught by talking about it. 

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Reply #17 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:43pm
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Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
  It may seem doubtful to you, but it seems entirely plausible to me in 1920.


Maybe it was, but the pop. in 1920 was 171,717--not exactly Mayberry. 
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:51pm
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Redsetter wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
  It may seem doubtful to you, but it seems entirely plausible to me in 1920.


Maybe it was, but the pop. in 1920 was 171,717--not exactly Mayberry. 

  OK, how many phones were there?
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 8:30pm
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Up until, at least 1954 (the yr I turned 10), in Rural Orange Co. CA, we had a phone w/o a dial. You pick it up and a operator ask who you'd like to call. By 1956, we had advanced to a dial and a party line.

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Reply #20 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 9:35pm
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Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
  OK, how many phones were there?


Interesting question, but judging from movies made in the '20s, everybody living in a private dwelling had a phone; certainly in cities, & even in many rural areas.  Telephone service had been around a long time in most parts of the East by 1920.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 9:53pm
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We didn't have electricity until 1930 or '31 where I live. Dad remembered the poles being set and the wires strung. He was born in 1925 on the ranch where I live.

The phone came much later. I had my first phone in 1974 or '75. It was a four party line.

Fresno County was pretty primitive for quite some time.

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Reply #22 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 10:06pm
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Growing up in the big city of Portland, we had a population of 300,000 in the city limits. No dedicated phone lines available in our neighborhood and 10 families on the party line.
We also had no city sewer system and everyone had a cesspool or septic tank. But my wife and I still had no city sewer connection here in Portland until 1996 either! Sewer lines were in place, but the city didn't require hooking up until that time. Population was 2 million in the late 1990's here.
No cable TV either until around that same time. Life was good!
  

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Reply #23 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 10:53pm
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It turns out that there is a Wikipedia page for the Syracuse Telephone system:

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Scroll down to "First dial office" to see the info relevant to the time period.  Cheesy

  
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Reply #24 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:28am
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Bill Lawrence wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:02pm:


I wonder if such systems still exist anywhere today?

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I doubt it.  Labor for 24/7 operator to place calls would be too expensive. 

I forgot you used to have to ask the operator place the call since there were no dials.  I'm sure Zichang's card was printed for that system, before everyone was assigned a number.  Even a short one like BR 549  Roll Eyes

When my parents finally got a phone, about 1960, there were 4 parties on one half that you heard ring and 4 more on the other half that you didn't hear.  If you got more than 3 or 4 listeners, the volume got so low nobody could hear anything.  My mother was not bashful about saying if these damn nosy neighbors would get off the line she would be able to hear.  Shocked

I think my grandparents got electricity about 1940 along with indoor plumbing  Grin  Grandpa said s**t in the house, I'm not going to s**t in the house!  He didn't until he had no choice in the early 60s when the Grade A dairy standards made out houses illegal on dairy farms. 

My parents installed both plumbing and electricity when  they built in 1947.  That electric milking machine must have been the best part of electric power coming  Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:33am
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:28am:
I forgot you used to have to ask the operator place the call since there were no dials. 


I was doing that in order to use a dial-less antique phone I had until sometime in the '90s--I'd click the hook a few times until an operator came on the line, then say "I'm having trouble placing this call, will you place it for me?"  Of course, I had to give the number, not the name.  Finally, this stopped working--no operator responded when I clicked the hook.   

But dial phones go back to the early '20s; that they weren't more common until yrs later was probably the result of small local exchanges lacking the electronic eqpt. that transmitted the electric impulses of the dial. 
  
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Reply #26 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:38am
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westerner wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 11:18pm:
1920 = 35 percent had a phone. Or 37,275,000.



               Joe.


There were a hundred million people living in Syracuse in 1920?


  
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Reply #27 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 10:45am
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In the mid-seventies Beowawe, Nevada had a pay phone that had no dial. Lift the reciever and wait for the operator. Reason was all calls were long distance because there were no other phones in the (small) town. 
We didn't get dial phones here until the late fifties. But, then, we didn't get paved streets until the mid fifties. And, we're the state capitol.
  
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Reply #28 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:09pm
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westerner wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
Seems telephone statistics are more interesting than A.O. Zischang?   


Well, to me they are, as I once had a small collection of antique phones, the more common ones that is, whereas any work of Zischang is probably far beyond my means.
  
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Reply #29 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:10pm
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westerner wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
Seems telephone statistics are more interesting than A.O. Zischang?   Grin


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