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Reply #15 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 7:54pm
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Joe you are feeling my pain! My buddy and I are both perplexed by the trigger...and it ain't a single set trigger, we tried.  I'm not 1/2 machinist like most of y'all seem to be on this forum, but I'm going to make time to try to polish the trigger parts as best I can (then go see a gunsmith later...).   

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Reply #16 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 7:59pm
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The part that will need the most attention, will be the sear spring, located inside the action, at the top. 

Those are, a lot of times, way to strong of a spring. I got my wife's plain trigger, HW, down to 2.5 lb, by reducing the thickness of that spring. I also polished the other engaging surfaces, too.

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Reply #17 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:18pm
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A long shot, maybe, but have you cleaned the entire trigger assembly + hammer, hammer spring, etc.? Nearly every old rifle I ever bought needed really good cleaning of those part before trigger pull was what it apparently was supposed to be.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:34pm
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svartkruttgris#369 - You are spot on (but Frank suggested main spring is going to be required).  Embarrassing, but when I did the chamber casting...it was heck to "bang it out"!  I got that silver casting stuff all in the action by adding too much. Oh the fun of fixing that mess...and tore up my black powder bench loading rod beating that casting out.  Felt pretty low that day...Midway gunsmithing videos don't look like my work...

I had to take action apart (I had been dreading it) and I cleaned/oiled (not polished) the parts before reassembling (yeah, I found a U-Tube video on how to do re-assemble...). Trigger was a little better but still stiff.

Mr Frank, I remember there was a little spring that was at the  bottom of the action...above trigger floor plate...what in the world does that little puppy do? Not sure I  got that one installed correctly.

  
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Reply #19 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:39pm
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I'm not sure what your talking of but, pictures will do a world of good.

The sear spring that I spoke of, is screwed into the inside of the action, just to the rear of the hammer cut out.

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Reply #20 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 8:59pm
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Frank, when next I take it apart, I'm going to message you and send pictures. I appreciate your knowledge and thank you for the guidance. 

Please don't send me an invoice!  Smiley 

I'm not a total idiot, i like shooting more than gunsmiting and bullet making, but I'm getting more patient with age (I'm a young 52) and I'm getting more interested in this fine art of the shooting sports...but it ain't cheap. 

I love flintlocks for there simplicity and they are cheap to shoot (once you bought your $2k plus custom rifle).  I used to think the Flintlock was the "fly rod" of the rifle world.  But changing my mind on that...this ASSRA stuff is the fly rod and the bullet knowledge here are the "fly-making" stuff to catch the big fish (e.g. little groups at distance).

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Reply #21 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 10:56am
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Had one of those chamber casting accidents with my Hepburn Match B too! I thought I had my bases covered, but when the chamber filled the Cerrosafe ran into the extractor cut. What I didn't realize was the extractor cut was a pretty good relief in the barrel threads and action. So the Cerrosafe was stuck in there so well that I had no option to get it out with a dental pick. I ended up having to put the barrel in my barrel vise and spun it off to clean the Cerrosafe out of the receiver and barrel threads!
Not sure how to prevent this next time, as duct seal would stop it, but still be in that cut and create issues getting it out also. Only real solution is to do a less than full chamber cast and that's not really a solution either.
  

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Reply #22 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 12:13pm
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Vall
I fill my extractor cuts with children’s clay.  It holds up well under the heat and is fairly easy to pick out. I am sure there are more elegant solutions y

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Reply #23 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 1:48pm
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Vall, I did that once too.  Like BPJack, I use Play Dough, but I'm chicken.  I make a little Play Dough funnel to total control of the Cerrosafe.
  

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Reply #24 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 2:03pm
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Vall I just pack the area with cleaning patch material and when done just simply pull it back out. 

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Reply #25 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 10:17pm
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JLouis wrote on Jun 14th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
Vall I just pack the area with cleaning patch material and when done just simply pull it back out. 

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I like that idea best! The Hepburn has a really deep cut under the extractor and It could get a lot of clay or Playdough in the cut! A little patch stuffed in there would be easy to pick out!
Never had this issue with a Ballard. The cut is just deep enough for the extractor to fit.
  

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Re: 32-40 High Wall (K R Breisen
Reply #26 - Jun 15th, 2018 at 7:31am
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Learning to pull the "guts" out of and back into a HW is just a matter of a little practice. The flat-spring action is a bit more of a hassle than a coil-spring, but still very easy once you get used to it. 5-minutes for the flat-spring & 3 for the coil. Quick & easy once you get the hang of it.

If you aren't a member at the River Bend GC am sure you are aware of it. They shoot BPCR & BPTR mid-range the 3rd or 4th weekend of the month (check their calendar). While your 32-40 is not appropriate for same, they will be a number of experienced High Wall shooters at the match who can help you with the heavy trigger and the bullet issue. If you are new to casting they will help you get started. That new RCBS pot with the PID controller would be a great place to start. Casting is faster & easier than it seems from the sidelines. If you have the mold someone will likely invite you over to show you how to use it and help you cast 50, or so, bullets to get you started. Single-shot rifle shooters are like that. If you get there, ask for Kidwell or CO and tell them SSShooter sent you.
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