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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 951 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Unertl scope question May 20^th, 2018 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	Can anybody help me out finding the specs for this model of Unertl? Also, is it too short for conventional barrel mounting? I am thinking of putting a removable scope on my 44 1/2 in 23/35 so that I can use the iron sights easier when I want to change for hunting deer or use the scope for antelope.. I had a Model 52 Winchester in the 70's that I put a Small Game 6x on but don't remember much about the scope as I shot it mostly with target sights. What Model of Unertl or any other maker would anybody suggest for hunting with? Tom


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #1 - May 20^th, 2018 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Tom I did not see a picture posted. JLouis

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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 951 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #2 - May 20^th, 2018 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Nothing wrong with me!


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #3 - May 20^th, 2018 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	For once I believe the sales pitch--that it IS a one of a kind custom job! Maybe inspired by one of about the same length offered by Fecker & specifically intended for mounting on a bolt-action rcvr. I once had one of the Feckers, but sold it after concluding there was no way I could make use of it. Suspect this will go sky-high.


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 951 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #4 - May 20^th, 2018 at 3:52pm	Print Post
	That's what I was afraid of as it really looks short! Tom


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7538 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #5 - May 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	I saw that scope on eBay. Seller is not too far from me and seems to have a lot of stuff for sale. Can’t say exactly what it is, appears to be a Vulture, they were short, but had more power. Could be something custom for 6 power limited bench rest matches. The other more common short external adjustment Unertl is a BV 20 x. It may be a power reduced BV but my guess its a Vulture. I ran a BV on one of my CPA rifles for a while it did not do well on the standard 7.2 inch space barrel mounted blocks. Eye relief a problem . Seemed way over priced to me, but if you want to hunt with a lower power Unertl not many choices. I have a 3x Small game on a Marlin 39a, be suitable for a light single shot too. I think it’s a great scope. Also have a large Varmit 10 x on one of my CPA rifles. Could consider it a hunting scope if big and heavy is acceptable and 10x is not too much. Not a lot available in between. With then demise of Precesion Shooting Magazine don’t see anything about 6 x bench rest & all I knew about it was the match reports. Guess it depends on what game and the expected range & conditions. None of the external adjustment Unertl scopes are water proof Boats
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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #6 - May 20^th, 2018 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	boats wrote on May 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm: Seemed way over priced to me Well, what Unertl isn't? If it's a "one of," as the lack of a ser. no. suggests, then it's worth more as a rarity than as one to shoot with.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #7 - May 20^th, 2018 at 4:37pm	Print Post
	Bulseyetom wrote on May 20^th, 2018 at 3:52pm: That's what I was afraid of as it really looks short! Tom I made a major effort to make use of a 14" Stevens 438 because it was in such pristine cond. But it, too, I gave up on & sold because there was no way to get the eyepiece back far enough for proper eye relief. Such short scopes are definitely cute, but they have their practical limitations.


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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #8 - May 20^th, 2018 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	It appears to be the same scope that was sold by Remington many years ago. If it is you cannot mount it on a single shot rifle. There is not enough eye relief. They were made to mount on the model 700 Remington. I had one, been there, done that, got the T-Shirt. All this was covered once before. Check the Eye relief if you actually have the scope. If not, pass it up.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #9 - May 20^th, 2018 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Not at all custom by far and it was offered in their catalog unfortunately I gave mine to a friend or I would have posted a copy of what it was called. JLouis

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7538 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #10 - May 20^th, 2018 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	I think the Remington short external adjustment was made by Remington. Looked Unertl but not. Don’t have my Strobels gunsight and scope book at hand, but that’s how I remember it. That 6 X has been on eBay for a long time no buyers. Not likely to fit anything but a bolt action will limit market. Boats
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #11 - May 20^th, 2018 at 5:07pm	Print Post
	Remington was indeed different and soley developed for benchrest competition. All though a bit different the Unertl BV 20 pretty much served the same purpose for use on bolt action rifles per say. JLouis

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7538 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #12 - May 20^th, 2018 at 5:14pm	Print Post
	John one of the old precision shooting annuals had a piece about the Remington scopes. Did Mike Walker design them ? All this from memory take me some time to dig out the actual details. May be the first ones were hybrid Remington-Unertl. Something about the mounts in the photo not quite Unertl to my eye. Have to have a better look and do some research to know sure. Boats


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7538 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #13 - May 20^th, 2018 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Wrong ! Mounts are marked Unertl in the photos. Boats


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Unertl scope question Reply #14 - May 20^th, 2018 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	Yes it is my understanding it was an undertaking by Mike Walker for benchrest shooting. It been quite some time since I read the article. But over on Benchrest Central if you do a search there is quite a bit of information shared by a collector and if memory serves me right a fellow who was involved in the project with Mike Walker. JLouis

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