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CW Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 495 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope May 17^th, 2018 at 11:02am	Print Post
	Or maybe just Wollensak ¾” scopes. I have no experience with the old scope brand. External adjustments. 3/4 tube. 4X. Production ended WWII. What is the quality of these? Were they low end even when new or were they serviceable?


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2018 at 11:20am	Print Post
	Nice little scope for plinking and easy enough to work on. Installed cross hairs on my cousins, cleaned the lenses and it ended up being a nice little clear scope that ground squirrels would some come to hate. JLouis

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #2 - May 17^th, 2018 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	CW wrote on May 17^th, 2018 at 11:02am: Were they low end even when new or were they serviceable? Well, they definitely were "economy priced," relative to others of the time. But "serviceable," they certainly were. If the mounts are steel with relatively "tall" thimbles, it's a Marlin. Wollensack made the scopes, but not the mounts, for Marlin, & also Sears. Frank is the expert on these, and considers them as good optically as the higher priced Lyman 438, priced at $20 with the cheapest mounts, vs. only $10 for the Wollensack!
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7249 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #3 - May 17^th, 2018 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	If the lenses are clean, I don't know how you could tell any difference between the Mossberg, Wallensak/Marlin or a 438. They use the same lens combination. The 438 is longer but, only the tube is longer, the lenses are in the same place as the others. Some of the Mossberg's have achormatic objective lenses and they also offered 8X as a option. I have two 8X and both have achormatic objectives but, I don't know if all 8X had them ( some 4X also had them). The longer 438 tube is advantageous, because you can get better eye relief with it. The 438 is a steel tube, the others are brass. I consider the click turrets sturdier on the 438 but, all are 1/2" clicks. All are based on the Stevens 438, that Lyman got when they bought the Stevens scope line. I'd much rather have a Mossberg 8X, achormatic than a 438. Frank

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #4 - May 21^st, 2018 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	Marlin mounts actually came in two varieties referred to as the #1 and #2 mounts or scopes. The scope used with both mounts was identical, but the difference in mounts is huge for the rear mounts! One mount is a 3 point with one spring plunger at about 45 degrees, and an elevation and windage adjustment knob. The knobs are held tight by a lock ring that is loosened to adjust and then tightened to hold the adjustment. The better mounts were click adjustable, and are 4 point mounts! They have both horizontal and vertical spring loaded plungers that are opposite the click adjusters. So this setup is much better than the 3 point mounts. Marlin and Wollensak telescopes are very good optics, but are 4x, so the low power is likely the biggest deficit. But they work very well for entry level shooting, and in the hands of a good shooter will do as well as any 4x scope does.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #5 - May 21^st, 2018 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:27pm: One mount is a 3 point with one spring plunger at about 45 degrees, and an elevation and windage adjustment knob. The knobs are held tight by a lock ring that is loosened to adjust and then tightened to hold the adjustment. These the ones you're referring to? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Seems same or similar pot-metal mounts appear on several different "economy" scopes, so wonder it they have a common source. However, this front mount, unlike those of Marlin, Wollensack, etc., was intended for use with a rib, so I'd guess they are the original mounts introduced by Lyman in 1930 for their 438. Evidently, the obvious crudeness of them didn't sit well with customers, so within a very few yrs, Lyman made the same 4-point mounts used on 5As standard also for 438s. When Gil Parsons bought out Lyman's remaining scope inventory, some of these pot-metal jobs, unused, were included in the deal.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #6 - May 21^st, 2018 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	That is the same similar rear mount, but that is not a Wollensak or Marlin front mount. Their tubes had about a 2.5" long stamped steel collar with two ribs stamped in lengthwise on that short tube. The front ring had two notches the ribs fit into, and one like the Ebay unit. But otherwise the 3 point setup is the same without the notch in the plunger in front.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Marlin - Wollensak ¾” rifle scope Reply #7 - May 21^st, 2018 at 8:16pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:38pm: That is the same similar rear mount, but that is not a Wollensak or Marlin front mount. Their tubes had about a 2.5" long stamped steel collar with two ribs stamped in lengthwise on that short tube. The front ring had two notches the ribs fit into, and one like the Ebay unit. But otherwise the 3 point setup is the same without the notch in the plunger in front. Redsetter wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:00pm: However, this front mount, unlike those of Marlin, Wollensack, etc., was intended for use with a rib


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