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Reply #15 - May 1st, 2018 at 9:09pm
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Do as you wish but I would never cut the brass around the web. You got good brass and can buy more at a minimal cost so adjust the chamber and your problems are over.
  
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Reply #16 - May 1st, 2018 at 9:26pm
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How are you going to open the chamber ? New reamer it may well be oversized, reamer used to chamber is in the US Gun in Australia. If it’s not set up properly it’s not going to be true. Polish the chamber ? .003 off the outside of case at the rim lot easier than opening up a chamber .003 consistently . Mess one up it’s just a case not a chamber. 

Top gunsmith may be able to do it well. Most Mick will have easy access to in Australia won’t .

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Reply #17 - May 1st, 2018 at 9:57pm
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There you go Mick two ways to skin the cat, let us know how it worked out .

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Reply #18 - May 2nd, 2018 at 12:13am
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Joe, you have to complain that it's inappropriate, then it'll get moved to 'off topic'. Who's been doing all this complaining anyway?
  
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Reply #19 - May 2nd, 2018 at 3:44pm
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calledflyer wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 12:13am:
Who's been doing all this complaining anyway?


Probably somebody who's REALLY bored!
  

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Reply #20 - May 2nd, 2018 at 4:59pm
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I found the same problem forming 32 miller short..
I tool out the shell holder and made a small plate to fit the top of the ram, then re-lubed them and ran the case Smiley to the bottom of the die lowed the ram and with a punch I that has a decaying pin in the end and inserted into the case and tapped the cases out,  Now any brand of case even starling will extract in my CPA Smiley Smiley
  
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Reply #21 - May 2nd, 2018 at 7:52pm
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Thanks again for all the replies, I decided to try turning down the cases myself by hand as I do not own any suitable power tools to do the job. I'm reluctant to give my $3000 rifle to  a gunsmith to enlarge the chamber in case there is a mishap and I will then be in worse trouble.
Anyway to make along story short I did 10 cases by hand using a very fine file and then emery paper, I kept seating the case in the rifle and then noting where it was binding, then carefully giving the high spot a rub with the 400 emery.
In all I removed approximately 1 1/2 to 2 thou and the cases will now chamber and extract fine.
This process took over an hour to do for ten cases.
As this rifle is soon due to be replaced with a 40/65 Hi Wall it has been a valuable experience in going against the flow calibre wise. 
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Reply #22 - May 2nd, 2018 at 8:44pm
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A drill press and file will make quick work of them Mick. Even  table top drill press will do just fine. Just need to find a piece of rod to fit the case mouth inside to protect it.
  

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Reply #23 - May 2nd, 2018 at 10:06pm
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More than one way to skin a cat and you found it. Way to many try to make rocket science pertain to the simplest of things or to over complicate it and congrats. in your success.

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Reply #24 - May 2nd, 2018 at 10:42pm
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Small drill press will do just fine. Main thing is get someone to make up a well fitted mandrel . 

So much turning work with cartridge cases small lathe real useful . I have a nice big one now. Made do with a small simple lathe for years. If I had the space would have another miniature machine dedicated to cardridge cases.

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Reply #25 - May 2nd, 2018 at 10:54pm
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We'll put Boats an inexpensive Mini Lathe can do allot of quality work typically at the same cost of a drill press and will by far more than suit ones needs for the smaller gunsmithing projects and a very wise investment. 

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Reply #26 - May 3rd, 2018 at 7:11am
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You see the old small Craftsman made by Atlas on EBay 200 300.  Chinese mini’s 200.  Expensive are the Unimats still available well under a thousand. 

My son makes fountain pins from scratch. He was doing the wood work on a modern variable speed wood lathe . Also did Metal work on it, drilling, fits on the ink  barrels etc with files and papers.  Tapping worked well too.  Lack of a compound did not hold him back.

Gave him my 12 inch Atlas when I bought the Logan. I had used it for cartridge case work years.  Before the Atlas I did case jobs on a wood lathe with files hand trimmers and abrasive papers. He’s glad he has the Atlas but point is you can do good work with a very simple lathe. Main thing  is master the use of micrometers and indicators. 

Look at the photos of Harry Popes lathe in “Popes Barrels”
  
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Reply #27 - May 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am
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boats wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Small drill press will do just fine. Main thing is get someone to make up a well fitted mandrel . 


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Even the mandrel can be made in the same method with a drill press. Simply find a piece of rod that's close and chuck it in the drill press. Then hold a file to it as it turns and keep checking fit with a case until it just slips in. Then use a hacksaw to cut it off as it spins and you've got a perfect mandrel.
I did a ton of things like this before I got my cheap lathe, and still occasionally do some tasks this way just because it's quick and easy sometimes.
  

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Reply #28 - May 3rd, 2018 at 12:36pm
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Anybody try just using bullets in the case mouth?  Stuff it in and chuck it up. After the case is finished, just toss the slugs back in the pile for remelt. Even your reject bullets become useful, hey?
  
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Reply #29 - May 3rd, 2018 at 3:07pm
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Small lathes can do real precise work, as anyone whose used the small jewelers lathes to repair old pocket watches can attest to.

  

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