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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Apr 1^st, 2018 at 11:28am	Print Post
	Ive got a 980g mold and a bunch of 1F powder.any ideas where to start? Silly I know but I get board easy. Also any idea of a reduced smokeless load besides trialboss?


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3973 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #1 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 1:54pm	Print Post
	Be sure to videotape the first shot so you can put it on Youtube. And, let us know how it kicks once the smoke clears and you can breathe again.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #2 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	calledflyer wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 1:54pm: Be sure to videotape the first shot so you can put it on Youtube. And, let us know how it kicks once the smoke clears and you can breathe again. No kidding.can you get too much pressure with a case full of 1f ? .


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #3 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	George, I would say that you could just "fill'r up" , there are many large capacity bottle neck, original cartridges. But, to be safe, maybe you could load 70 or 80% and use Pufflon as a filler. You are a where that 2/3 of the BP stays as a solid and that weight adds to the total projectile weight? I want to know about the recoil, too What kind of rifle or action will this be shot in? Frank
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #4 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	This brings up an interesting capacity question. At what volume does a case full of BP become a pipe bomb?

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 4473 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #5 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	Well, let's see. You have a case capacity of about 300 grains or 1.3 times a 600 Nitro Express with a bullet weighing 1.05 times a 600 Nitro's. Now a lot of that 300 grains of powder might exit the muzzle in a huge streak of flame. No, not too much pressure and not really too much velocity either. Probably comparable to an antique 8 bore rifle.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #6 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: At what volume does a case full of BP become a pipe bomb? Shocked One way to find out ... tie the rifle to a tire - string on the trigger - behind the truck - Pull the string Here's some data for you but your bullet is weigh over the norm ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Your on your own with this rifle - Good Luck
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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1052 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #7 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	Are you going to Breech seat? Can you use civil war data from a 58 cal rifle? I understand that the standard military load for this rifle was 60 grains of black powder over a 500 grain minnie ball. Check it out before using.
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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #8 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 6:16pm	Print Post
	I was worried about the pipe bomb issue as well


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7659 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #9 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm: Probably comparable to an antique 8 bore rifle. As a one shot, shoulder held, shooter of a 16lb, 8 bore double, I can tell you that if the 50 BMG holds 300 gr, it would be close in recoil. The 8 bore load is 250 gr BP with a 1080 gr bullet. I survived it but, never again!! Frank

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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #10 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	Maybe we're asking the wrong question. Instead of "Can I do this?" maybe the question should be: "Is this a good idea?"


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Mick B Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1007 Location: 19 Ian Nicol St watson ACT aus Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #11 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	I was given a slug gun bullet while at the slug gun shoot at Friendship that is 69 cal and 2.095" long, it is a PP bullet and I was told it weighs 1900 gr or so. I was also told at the time that the bench gun used to fire it weighed 90 pounds and the charge was 240 gr of BP. Evidently the rules of the match were, if you can carry it to the bench, you can fire it. Mike.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #12 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Case capacity of a 50 caliber center fire = 292.8 gr H2O There's your BP powder charge to the case mouth but reduce it for depth of seated bullet. And again, the proposed bullet to be used is too heavy. 647 to 800gr are weights listed for jackets


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #13 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	Quote: Case capacity of a 50 caliber center fire = 292.8 gr H2O There's your BP powder charge to the case mouth but reduce it for depth of seated bullet. And again, the proposed bullet to be used is too heavy. 647 to 800gr are weights listed for jackets It's the CBE mold I have so I'm stuck with it .its length is close to the ball ammo.ill give it a go in a couple weeks.the gun is a Barrett 99 single shot and very heavy.


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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 468 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: 50 BMG single shot cast bullet /blackpowder load? Reply #14 - Apr 2^nd, 2018 at 1:36am	Print Post
	This sounds like a, Hay hold my beer and watch this, moment I would like to see it! Have someone tape it Ld1
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