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tornadobelt Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2018	1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Mar 24^th, 2018 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	Been discussing this rifle in the "Collecting" forum. Here are some images


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #1 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	Better than average Favorite for sure. Too bad Stevens later did away with that screw used to apply tension on the lever, but couldn't be retained with the central extractor. Note wood shrinkage below tangs, which I've seen before; makes me think Stevens did not always use well seasoned wood, at least on boys' rifles.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #2 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:20pm	Print Post
	The spring, plunger and link that Stevens used to prevent lever droop in the 1894 Favorite with the 6 o'clock extractor worked pretty well.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2018 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	BP wrote on Mar 24^th, 2018 at 10:20pm: The spring, plunger and link that Stevens used to prevent lever droop in the 1894 Favorite with the 6 o'clock extractor worked pretty well. Yes it did, but that method too was later done away with...in pursuit no doubt of reduced production cost.


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tornadobelt Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2018	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite: barrel roll mark Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 9:11am	Print Post
	Image of the barrel roll mark


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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Nice gun. Looks like a mixture of ages. Almost all of the 7 o'clock extractors had '94 patent dates bracketed with a boxed-in-X. In my survey, I have found only one mid-late 7 with a rounded frame cutout. Note the two small milling marks inside the top breech of the frame, a machining cull? With no serial number I would venture a guess that this is a lunch basket special, probably made about 1900 at the beginning of the 6 o'clock models, but a very nice one. James


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 10:44am	Print Post
	My thought, too. Which makes it more rare than anything that actually got shipped by Stevens. Unique, in the true sense of the word.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #7 - Mar 25^th, 2018 at 10:59am	Print Post
	James, if you meant that little notch at about 10:30 on the breech face of the frame, my 83929 has that, too. But 56888 doesn't. A process change that was instituted when the sharp angle cutaway was abandoned? Need more data. BTW - Are you collecting pictures? Phil

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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #8 - Mar 26^th, 2018 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Yes, 10:30 and 1:30 notches. My 51697 doesn't have that. Doesn't extract very good, either. My thought, not being a machinist, was that the blank metal shifted in the jig and ended up in the reject bucket, too good a temptation for an empty lunch basket. Perhaps the perpetrator may have selected an unmarked barrel and took a nice old roll stamp out of storage... Thank you, Johnny Cash. I'm not collecting pictures, just "serial numbers" and their variations to try to build a timeline. Thanks for the offer James


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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #9 - Mar 26^th, 2018 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Notice, also that the bow tie/X on the '89 is formed by stamping the 4 arms of the X and that the '94 boxed X is formed by stamping a box, leaving the X raised, a bas-relief for you MBAs. James


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2018 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	coljimmy wrote on Mar 26^th, 2018 at 12:12pm: Perhaps the perpetrator may have selected an unmarked barrel and took a nice old roll stamp out of storage... Rather an odd impulse for one presumed to be doing something sub rosa. Though for all we know, employees were given the privilege of assembling guns for their personal use, on their own time, & reimbursing the company for the parts.


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tornadobelt Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2018	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #11 - Mar 27^th, 2018 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	According to Grant in is first book [1947] p. 103, Stevens offered, in Catalog 51, a barrel reboring service. GunAuction.com has a tip-up listed as marked .22 but chambers the .25/25. Am I far off in guessing that factory reboring might account for some otherwise unexplained variants?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #12 - Mar 27^th, 2018 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	tornadobelt wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 12:07pm: Am I far off in guessing that factory reboring might account for some otherwise unexplained variants? No you're not, but such re-bores were always so marked by Stevens. Is it possible a lazy or distracted worker "forgot" to mark such a re-bore? Not absolutely impossible, but not likely either.


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tornadobelt Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2018	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #13 - Mar 27^th, 2018 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	Code 10:30 and 1:30 notches For what it's worth, mine has only the "10:30" notch.


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tornadobelt Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2018	Re: 1889 Stevens Favorite .32 rimfire Reply #14 - Mar 27^th, 2018 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Code Am I far off in guessing that factory reboring might account for some otherwise unexplained variants? Code No you're not, but such re-bores were always so marked by Stevens. Is it possible a lazy or distracted worker "forgot" to mark such a re-bore? Not absolutely impossible, but not likely either. Well, that makes sense.


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