Did Walker have his own stamp, and did Walker mark his barrels as Pope did?
The 1882 E. Remington & Sons price list does show, on one page only, for the #3:

                   THE
Remington Improved Creedmoor Rifle.
        HEPBURN'S PATENT
                  No. 3
     SPORTING & TARGET RIFLE

Hepburn isn't mentioned on any of the other pages pertaining to the other various #3 rifle models.
If the "L. L. HEPBURN" stamp is found on #3 Creedmoor Rifle barrels, should it be called a "Hepburn-Hepburn" ?
And if the "L. L. HEPBURN" stamp is found on barrels for the other #3 models, should it be called a "Hepburn-No. 3" ?

Opinion's are a dime a dozen how about some serious research and some actual facts of which I have none to share but wish I did and would if I had the means to do so. I know everyone enjoys to voice and listen to others opinions to keep such threads alive and well and nothing wrong with doing so but some real meat and potatoes are just about due for this one and I too would like to know.

JLouis

Probably not worth mentioning, but I suspect there are more roll dies and stamps floating around now than the original manufactures themselves ever made and used.    

Thanks Joe I did not know that book was out there and it sounds like it would indeed be money well spent to pick one up.

JLouis

I bought my copy of Rowe's Hepburn book on Amazon for $80, so check there first. Might save some money.

As for famous makers and when or why they get special notation or "ownership" added to guns they made. The workers who designed or worked on guns as part of their normal day to day job rarely get any credit. The Walker designation was assigned to his design by Remington. Unusual as they indeed didn't assign Hepburn's name to the #3 Remington. Who knows why Remington saw fit to credit Walker for redesigning the #3, but didn't see fit to credit Hepburn with the original design? The fact Walker got credit is more confusing, as it was not the habit of most gun makers to give employees credit for their design, unless it benefitted the company.
The Stevens company gave Pope credit because they felt his name would increase sales. Had it not benefitted Stevens, they'd never have added his name.
Marlin used Ballard's name simply because Ballard himself had named the design when he was involved long before Marlin. But had it not already been named the Ballard rifle, Marlin and his partners would not have done so. Hepburn designed every Marlin lever action model from the Model 1889 to the Model 1897, and numerous in between. But as an employee of John Marlin, he got paid a paycheck, and no benefit to Marlin to give Hepburn any credit in naming his designs.
The various custom built guns by famous custom barrel makers, or custom gun makers have been given the name of the maker due to those makers applying their names to the gun barrels. We look at a particular Winchester, Remington, or Ballard, and if it has a famous maker's rollstamp on it, we call it a Pope Winchester, Pope Ballard, or Pope Remington. We use Stevens' designated "Stevens-Pope" for guns built while he was employed by Stevens, but that's also because it's marked so on the barrel. There are probably 500 or so Stevens-Pope marked barrels on Stevens rifles that were built after Pope left, and done so under Ross' supervision. We don't call them Stevens-Ross rifles. They're still referred to as Stevens-Pope, but everyone knows Pope didn't have anything to doo with those later Stevens-Pope marked rifles.
Adding a famous maker's name to designate they reworked a gun is more of a nod to those we hold in such high regard. This is why the #3 has been given the nickname the Hepburn rifle. It's because collectors have for decades felt Hepburn was credited for his design. Same as famous gun makers get.

s.s.jeff wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 6:28pm:


Correct Jeff. So should we call them Stevens-Ross, or should we call them Stevens-Pope-Ross?

Thanks for catching my mistake on the "Roth" vs. Ross part!