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A "one off" custom by DZ Arms (wish it were mine).
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This is a beautiful example of a rifle that has always been a baffling one to me.
Why were the lever-operated rifles ever made?
To a collector, of course, they would be golden, since they are so scarce. But to the shooter of real or replica versions what is the advantage? The disturbance while shooting with the thumb operated, more common, rifle would be less, and the trimmer, more streamlined common one would be nicer for carrying on the ones used in the field.
So, if anybody would like to educate me, I'm all ears. Thanx
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I may be wrong but I assume it's because the breech block rocks back on the walker patent instead of falling straight down like a normal hepburn. I would also assume you have more leverage for extraction. Somebody here could probably tell you more assuredly than I can though.
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Thanks for the reply, everything is worth hearing about.
Does the block really rock? I can't figure what would be different in the pathway of the thing- but I haven't ever seen a Walker Hepburn either. If it does that might be useful for the paper patch rounds, huh?
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Think in regards to the benefits of the under lever design for offhand and the benefits of the side lever for back shooting.
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Yeah, I guess that finger support is good for the offhand. My ol' high wall has finger grooves, but I never use them, so I just overlooked that one. Good thinkin'.
Off the bags (about all I shoot these days), I just lay my thumb alongside the wrist and stick a single finger into the trigger, so don't pay it any attention other than being the handle to open the action.
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If it's a Pope type lever it a nice place to relax your fingers as it helps to negate the unwanted and sympathetic movement from the others while trying to squeeze the trigger. I also try to place my thumb gently on top of the wrist so there is no tourqe pushing against my thumb if I were to place it on side of which then tends to push the shot away from it. But there are those who are very successful in doing so all though it does not work for me.
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My Walker Hepburn lecture.
The Walker Patent action was never manufactured except for prototypes. A very complicated action.
The Walker Hepburn is is identical to a regular Hepburn except for the lever, a Hopkins & Allen type link, different, but similar breech block, trigger plate and lever spring.
The Walker Hepburn was an attempt to cash in on the Schuetzen market with minimum changes to an existing action.
It was not a commercial success even though they hired Doc Hudson to campaign with one, hence the rarity
Several Walkers were modified to replace the Hepburn DST's. Don't know if this was factory or not.
Tom Rowe's Hepburn book is a good reference.
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Now that y'all are making an expert out of me
, I have to go to a gun show soon and find a Walker Hepburn to see.
I'm not kidding, I've never seen one, real or recreation. Heck, around here "normal" Hepburns are mighty scarce. Thanks
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Chuckster wrote
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My Walker Hepburn lecture.
The Walker Patent action was never manufactured except for prototypes.
Tom Rowe's Hepburn book is a good reference.
Chuck
Chuck, I'm curious why you consider the Walker a prototype, and not more of a special or custom Hepburn? Since Tom Rowe's book lists almost 40 known examples, and Remington did advertise the Walker version for sale as a "special", it seems it went past being just a prototype.
I've heard guesstimates of 50 to 100 built, but I seriously doubt there were 100 built. I'd guess it's likely around 50, as I'm sure there may be more beyond what Warren Greatbatch discovered, or Tom Rowe listed. But probably not many more.
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The Walker Patent action is completely different from a Walker Hepburn.
Tom Rowe shows a prototype Walker Patent action but don't think it was ever manufactured. Too complicated.
They took the idea, minimally modified the Hepburn action and called it a Walker Hepburn.
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Chuckster wrote
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The Walker Patent action is completely different from a Walker Hepburn.
Tom Rowe shows a prototype Walker Patent action but don't think it was ever manufactured. Too complicated.
They took the idea, minimally modified the Hepburn action and called it a Walker Hepburn.
Chuck
Thanks Chuck!
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Lot of variations in Walker Hepburns. Some are close to standard rifles and some are highly modified. No two exactly alike. Grant shows a Walker with four finger loop lever. Is a standard Hepburn with a Walker barrel a Walker?
Joe.
I wouldn't think so. No more than a Winchester with a Stevens barrel is a Stevens.
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I want to see a Hepburn with a rocking Breech block! I never seen of those! All my Hepburn’s were the plain old falling block ones.
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No rocking breechblock, but a nice original that sold 3 years ago in the low 30's. Bob
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