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Hiwall55 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 468 Location: west central Illinois Joined: Jun 30^th, 2012	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #30 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Thanks Wayne,I really should buy your book. Not all all BPCRS stay the same though,I have a 40-60 Maynard,35-40 Maynard,38-50 Remington, and all were 45-70 Brownings at one time.


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2256 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #31 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	texasmac wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 7:46pm: gunlaker wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 6:16pm: I had one of the Winchester .50-90's as well as the .45-70 BPCR. The .50-90 was nasty in that light little rifle Chris. Chris, Based on your "was nasty" comment I may be wrong but I'm betting your .50-90 was one of a small batch of Ltd. Winchester Traditional Hunters with concave buttplate & slender full-length octagon barrel & weighed around 8.25lbs. If so than it was not a "BPCR" model although it was chambered for a traditional BP cartridge. The BPCR model weighs a good bit more (11.2 lbs without sights), but even then with a typical 700 to 750gr bullet in front of a lot of BP you better be ready when you pull the trigger. Wayne Naw, it was definitely one of the BPCR models. I shot it with 698gr Creedmoor bullets and a large amount of Fg. Still too nasty for me In order for a .50-90 to be really useful to me it'd want to be a Tollofson weight rifle. It was an interesting rifle to own for a while, and would probably make an excellent hunting rifle. Chris.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1888 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #32 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	gunlaker wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:26pm: texasmac wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 7:46pm: gunlaker wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 6:16pm: I had one of the Winchester .50-90's as well as the .45-70 BPCR. The .50-90 was nasty in that light little rifle Chris. Chris, Based on your "was nasty" comment I may be wrong but I'm betting your .50-90 was one of a small batch of Ltd. Winchester Traditional Hunters with concave buttplate & slender full-length octagon barrel & weighed around 8.25lbs. If so than it was not a "BPCR" model although it was chambered for a traditional BP cartridge. The BPCR model weighs a good bit more (11.2 lbs without sights), but even then with a typical 700 to 750gr bullet in front of a lot of BP you better be ready when you pull the trigger. Wayne Naw, it was definitely one of the BPCR models. I shot it with 698gr Creedmoor bullets and a large amount of Fg. Still too nasty for me In order for a .50-90 to be really useful to me it'd want to be a Tollofson weight rifle. It was an interesting rifle to own for a while, and would probably make an excellent hunting rifle. Chris. I'm not man enough to pull the trigger with that load in the 8.25lb Traditional Hunter version. I bet a lot of those are setting in safes after being fired a couple of times, especially if they tried shooting it off a bench or even worse prone. Wayne

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #33 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 7:57am	Print Post
	My first BPCR rifle was a Win Hunter with the 28" full octagon barrel. It was a 38-55 I had rechambered to 38-56. Crescent butt-stock made my shoulder black & blue my first match. The last two animals were most unpleasant to shoot. Thankfully, someone at the match took pity and sold me a shotgun pistol-grip stock that was broken in shipping and he had repaired. Made the rifle easily manageable. Can't imagine shooting that rifle in 50-90 more than once. Wayne - thanks for the info. I have your 1st edition, but it is packed away somewhere as we do our best to downsize into retirement.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2256 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #34 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 9:19am	Print Post
	Yeah, I imagine that would be a really nasty load in a Traditional Hunter. I had one of those once, but in .45-70. It was a well built rifle, but sold it after I bought a C. Sharps with a heavy barrel and shotgun buttstock that was better suited to BPCR shooting. I think I just bought the .50-90 BPCR because of the rarity, and thought it was kind of neat. I might have even kept it if the safe wasn't so crowded . Of my Browning/Winchester rifles the .45-70 BPCR was the best one. The only Miroku built rifle I have now is one of the Deluxe Checkered 1886 rifles. I haven't shot it much but it is very well built. I have a strange problem with firearms that are not competition style single shots. I'll buy them on a whim and they'll sit at the back of the safe. When dig through my nice single shots to take the new rifle to the range I never quite get there, and instead take one of my trusty single shots out instead. Chris.


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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 267 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Browning and new Winchester BPCR Rifles Reply #35 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 10:35pm	Print Post
	Thanks all. I appreciate your points. I'll mull over them for a while.

	"White man have very strong Medicine. Shoot today maybeso kill you tomorrow." Esa-Tai Commanche warrior
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