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cross088 Newbie Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2017	help with 38/55 loading Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	have pedersoli sharps in 38/55 with 1in 18 twist and have cast 250 gr lyman bullets. will be loading smokeless powder where to start. looking for deer load


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50target Full Member Offline Posts: 145 Location: Alabama Joined: May 27^th, 2014	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #1 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 9:39pm	Print Post
	You have a good strong action but the typical slow twist and that may limit you to 250-260gr range. The old standby is 10.0 gr Unique. I've had good luck with it. IMR4198 has also performed well. Forget loading. Be sure bullet diameter fits bore as the diameters can be all over the place. Have an original Stevens 44 and it shoots .377 very well. My Uberti Hi Wall will tumble with that dia. and it needs ,380 to perform well. Check Ken Waters Pet Loads for info overload. Lot of powders suited for this caliber. With a 250gr, easy to get 1400fps. Should be plenty for deer. Almost forgot, two length of bradd. Interesting cartridge. Enjoy Bob


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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2138 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #2 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 12:52am	Print Post
	I use 4198. I use a heavier bullet, but 4198 will burn well even with light bullets. I wouldn't use unique or double based pistol powders; the charge is too small for the size of the case. You can get away with it for years, but can eventually ring the chamber or have a detonation that damages something.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #3 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 1:58am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 1:14am: With your twist of 18 you can use much heavier bullets. Up to 330 grain. Very popular at one time. Have had good luck with 300 gr bullets. 19 gr IMR 4227. A bit stout for a Ballard but okay in your Sharps. Upper target Saeco 300 gr tapered bullet, five shots at 200. Lower, twenty shots custom bullet at 200 yards. Targets shot breech seated. Use hard bullets in fixed ammo. Joe. Joe, Did you ever try 4759? I found it a bit better than 4227 in fixed. Too bad they stopped making it.

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #4 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 2:28am	Print Post
	I got better accuracy with 4227 in 32-40 for some reason and 4759 in 38-55.

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4234 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #5 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 3:32am	Print Post
	My18:1 twist loves 310 grain bullets with 50 grains FFFg. Use BP and give the deer a chance.


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GrumpyBear Full Member Offline Posts: 139 Location: Western,Pa. Joined: Sep 30^th, 2017	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #6 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 5:30am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 1:58am: westerner wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 1:14am: With your twist of 18 you can use much heavier bullets. Up to 330 grain. Very popular at one time. Have had good luck with 300 gr bullets. 19 gr IMR 4227. A bit stout for a Ballard but okay in your Sharps. Upper target Saeco 300 gr tapered bullet, five shots at 200. Lower, twenty shots custom bullet at 200 yards. Targets shot breech seated. Use hard bullets in fixed ammo. Joe. Joe, Did you ever try 4759? I found it a bit better than 4227 in fixed. Too bad they stopped making it. What was your load with 4759 ? I have a good supply of it.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4474 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #7 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 1:24pm	Print Post
	With a 250 grain I use 14.5 grains of 4759 and with a 310 grain I use 19.5 grains of 4198.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	15 grs 4759 and the 255 gr Lyman bullet. 18" twist Douglas barrel.

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GrumpyBear Full Member Offline Posts: 139 Location: Western,Pa. Joined: Sep 30^th, 2017	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #9 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	Thank you gentlemen.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1826 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #10 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	TO GET BACK TO THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD: cross088, A good deer load : For Your 250/255 gr lead bullet: WLR primers, 28 gr Reloader 7, Push a tight wad down-I USE 0.060" low density poly wad cut at 0.375"- WITH THE BULLET AS YOU SEAT IT. Very accurate in my Marlin 336CB, and my Marlin 1893. Not too hot, clocks about 1700fps or so. beltfed/arnie


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Marlene Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Joined: Oct 30^th, 2015	Re: help with 38/55 loading Reply #11 - Feb 28^th, 2018 at 1:27am	Print Post
	22 grains H4198 shoots great, I expect hotter would be good too


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