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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #30 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 10:02am	Print Post
	Toss the trigger return spring and make a new one from .045" piano wire. It will bring the trigger pull waaaaay down! Then if the hammer pull is too heavy simply remove some metal from the sides, but stay away from the ends. Be sure to try it occasionally as you remove metal, so you don't go too far. And don't get the spring hot and change color while grinding!

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #31 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Feb 27^th, 2018 at 10:02am: Toss the trigger return spring and make a new one from .045" piano wire. It will bring the trigger pull waaaaay down! Then if the hammer pull is too heavy simply remove some metal from the sides, but stay away from the ends. Be sure to try it occasionally as you remove metal, so you don't go too far. And don't get the spring hot and change color while grinding! That makes really good sense !!! I pulled the trigger plate 1/2 way out to get to the spring screws to start I put a .030 shim under the trigger spring and that was a goodly change. I'll get after the hammer spring ! This is going to make a world of difference in the pull!! Ol Deuce Thanks Vall
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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #32 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	The heaver hammer spring was to reliably fire the harder primers used in 8X58RD ammo, addressing an early concern about higher chamber pressures from white powder. I replaced hammer spring in mine with one from 1867 model-- gave suitable trigger pull, which gunsmith improved. On many 8X58RD chamber rollers the rim size cut is same as for 45-70. If yours is, you probably have your ejector issue solved. Mine has and 45-70 brass makes excellent 8X58RD, albiet a bit short. My 8X58RD roller was mint military condition when I bought it. Only thing I did to outside is have Marbles tang sight installed. For me, issue stock is right drop for offhand shooting. Very satisfactory rifle for 1500 fps lead bullet loads.


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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #33 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 11:11pm	Print Post
	svartkruttgris#369 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2018 at 10:33pm: The heaver hammer spring was to reliably fire the harder primers used in 8X58RD ammo, addressing an early concern about higher chamber pressures from white powder. I replaced hammer spring in mine with one from 1867 model-- gave suitable trigger pull, which gunsmith improved. On many 8X58RD chamber rollers the rim size cut is same as for 45-70. If yours is, you probably have your ejector issue solved. Mine has and 45-70 brass makes excellent 8X58RD, albiet a bit short. My 8X58RD roller was mint military condition when I bought it. Only thing I did to outside is have Marbles tang sight installed. For me, issue stock is right drop for offhand shooting. Very satisfactory rifle for 1500 fps lead bullet loads. Mine does have the next generation ejector and the rim of the 45-70 brass does fit ....Very happy !! Ol Deuce

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4022 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #34 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 11:57pm	Print Post
	I did keep one of my 8x58R Rolling Blocks with the 1890s conversion intact and made cases from .45-90 cases. I made 8x58R breech seating cases so my custom made cases would last longer and shoot more accurately. I was using a 235 grain .323 diameter Paul Jones bullet with H108. My 1867 Rolling Block; converted to 8x58R, basically has a new barrel on it as well as new innards and was case hardened again when it was converted. This RB is the first year of the 1867 Model Swedish Rolling Blocks; that actually has a Remington stamp on the tang, as opposed to the later years where they were made by Carl Gustaf or Husqvarna.
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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #35 - Feb 28^th, 2018 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	Dave, Is the buttstock wood on your 8X58RD original? Wood on mine is in very good condition but not nearly so nicely grained. I have done nothing to wood on mine except a bit of cleaning and a very thin coat of Truoil. FYI: My standard load for 200M silohuotte is Lyman 205 gr GC bullet 0,329" over 20gr 4759 in Privi Partizan 8X56R cases fireformed to headspace on shoulder (rim too small). Groove-to-groove is 0,325" and chamber throat is slightly "oversize", so I am effectively matching slightly oversize bullet to throat. Other bullet is Lyman 250 gr 0,325" that protrudes well into rifling. Both are deadly on metallic critters so long as I do my part. I had done a bit of early trial with breach seating also using cases formed from 45/90 Rem cases but quit because fixed ammo meets all my needs.


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4022 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #36 - Feb 28^th, 2018 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	The buttstock is original except it has been coated with one coat of Tung Oil.


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