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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #15 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 10:28am	Print Post
	Numrich also has not only the original Remington pistol grip lower tangs, but also the original wood too. These are from the run they made in the late 1990's, and very nice quality, unlike some Numrich stuff. The tangs are $45, and the deluxe custom shop wood set I bought was $165 for buttstock and forearm with color cased steel forearm tip and buttplate. Also nicely checkered. I got the last custom shop wood set, so the regular sets use the black plastic buttplates, and not steel forearm tip. But they're a fair bit less money also.

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #16 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:13pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 10:28am: Numrich also has not only the original Remington pistol grip lower tangs, but also the original wood too. These are from the run they made in the late 1990's, and very nice quality, unlike some Numrich stuff. The tangs are $45, and the deluxe custom shop wood set I bought was $165 for buttstock and forearm with color cased steel forearm tip and buttplate. Also nicely checkered. I got the last custom shop wood set, so the regular sets use the black plastic buttplates, and not steel forearm tip. But they're a fair bit less money also. I checked out Numrick Those parts are for the RB-1 and my Rolling Block is "1867??" does all these parts interchange? Is there any kind of a interchange ?? Ol Deuce

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #17 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	Ol_Deuce wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:13pm: I checked out Numrick Those parts are for the RB-1 and my Rolling Block is "1867??" does all these parts interchange? Is there any kind of a interchange ?? Ol Deuce Remington built their 1990's version based on the early blackpowder versions, including using the sliding extractor. The parts will fit your 1867 just fine, although the lower tang has a slight taper, and it took a few minutes with a file for me to thin the forward half down to fit my 1867 receiver. I also had to shape the trigger plate a bit to fit the receiver contour, but it was worth the time. This is mine after shaping, fitting, and narrowing/thinning the top tang. I also reshaped the hammer and breechblock spur to make them "sporter" shape: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) They also have all the parts for the longrange vernier tang sights, which costs about $135 and took 5 minutes to assemble.

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4022 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #18 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	The 1867 Rolling Blocks were converted to 8x58R in the 1890s. This conversion included changing the straight extractor to a circular extractor, adding a a cocking indicator, reharden the receiver and replacing the innards. Not sure if the original No.1 Military parts will work with the conversion parts put in in 1890. An original 1867 can accept the No. 1 parts but not so sure they will match up with the parts from the 1890 conversions. Definitely not the extractor since the screw hole for the old straight extractor has been filled in in the conversion. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #19 - Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:25pm: Ol_Deuce wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 7:13pm: I checked out Numrick Those parts are for the RB-1 and my Rolling Block is "1867??" does all these parts interchange? Is there any kind of a interchange ?? Ol Deuce Remington built their 1990's version based on the early blackpowder versions, including using the sliding extractor. The parts will fit your 1867 just fine, although the lower tang has a slight taper, and it took a few minutes with a file for me to thin the forward half down to fit my 1867 receiver. I also had to shape the trigger plate a bit to fit the receiver contour, but it was worth the time. This is mine after shaping, fitting, and narrowing/thinning the top tang. I also reshaped the hammer and breechblock spur to make them "sporter" shape: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) They also have all the parts for the longrange vernier tang sights, which costs about $135 and took 5 minutes to assemble. Thank you!! All this Rolling Block info is well needed My Winchesters better play well with this Ol'Girl ! LoL Ol Deuce

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #20 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 10:40am	Print Post
	The latest version of the rotary extractors wont work with earlier parts, but the BP rotary extractors will work. They don't have the slot for the retaining screw, and simply lay over the raised area on the breechblock. I've tried the later style, and the longer length hits inside the trigger plate and only allows the block to open to 45 degrees, making it useless. So if your converted military uses the extractor with no retaining screw it should be fine with the new style PG trigger plate. Of course any mixing of parts on Rolling Blocks from different generations may involve some fitting work to make it all work perfectly.

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #21 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 10:40am: The latest version of the rotary extractors wont work with earlier parts, but the BP rotary extractors will work. They don't have the slot for the retaining screw, and simply lay over the raised area on the breechblock. I've tried the later style, and the longer length hits inside the trigger plate and only allows the block to open to 45 degrees, making it useless. So if your converted military uses the extractor with no retaining screw it should be fine with the new style PG trigger plate. Of course any mixing of parts on Rolling Blocks from different generations may involve some fitting work to make it all work perfectly. My package will be "Rolling" up tomorrow ! Ol Deuce

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4022 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #22 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	Picture of the circular extractor that replaced the straight extractor when the 1867 Rolling Blocks were converted to 8x58R in the 1890s. This extractor works perfectly on .45-70 or .40-65 cases if you replace the barrel. I converted mine to .38-50 Remington Hepburn and had to have a new extractor manufactured.
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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #23 - Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	Schuetzendave wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 8:50pm: Picture of the circular extractor that replaced the straight extractor when the 1867 Rolling Blocks were converted to 8x58R in the 1890s. This extractor works perfectly on .45-70 or .40-65 cases if you replace the barrel. I converted mine to .38-50 Remington Hepburn and had to have a new extractor manufactured. Hi Dave ....do you have a photo of your new extractor ??? I'm thinking of making the rolling block a take-down If I do it will need something done with the extracting Department ........ Ol Deuce

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4022 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #24 - Feb 24^th, 2018 at 6:31am	Print Post
	The rifle is on loan to my niece so I cannot take a picture of the newest extractor. It looks very similar to the one in the picture except it is designed for a smaller case head. A person would made the extractor for me and who sells the Swedish Rolling Block and supplies parts is: Steven Holborn 8960 Hwy 17 East Warren , Ontario POH 2N0 705-967-0940 itm@true802.ca


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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2018 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Schuetzendave wrote on Feb 24^th, 2018 at 6:31am: The rifle is on loan to my niece so I cannot take a picture of the newest extractor. It looks very similar to the one in the picture except it is designed for a smaller case head. A person would made the extractor for me and who sells the Swedish Rolling Block and supplies parts is: Steven Holborn 8960 Hwy 17 East Warren , Ontario POH 2N0 705-967-0940 itm@true802.ca Thank You Dave!!!! Ol Deuce

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #26 - Feb 24^th, 2018 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	9:00 sharp the FedX was at my Door Nice box job! what came out of the box for $295 made my eyes Big This rolling block is MINTY......No pitting, All the screw heads are perfect! The moving parts show No Wear! the Hammer face is Perfect.....It's the beginning of a Grand Project (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Ol Deuce

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 11:22am	Print Post
	The Green Mountain Barrel will be in my hands Wednesday But still have a month to wait on the chamber ream !!! Ol Deuce

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Ol_Deuce Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 343 Location: Billings,Montana Joined: Nov 19^th, 2008	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #28 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 1:21am	Print Post
	My question is .........The hammer pressure on this old rolling block is really heave ! Does the gun require that much pressure ??? Been doing alot of cleaning and I've got a very smooth trigger pull with no creep ! the tenison on the trigger intent !! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Ol Deuce

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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 429 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: My winter Rolling Block Projet Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 4:47am	Print Post
	Try backing the main spring screw off 1/2 turn it may do wonders for your trigger pull. Ld1


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