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32-40 Brass?
Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:49pm
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How does one go about creating .32-40 brass?  I've read where they can be made from .38-55, .30-30s, .32 special.  Which would be the best?  I know, as soon as I make a few hundred, some manufacturer, somewhere, will start producing them again.  I do remember, not too long ago, W-W .32-40 brass cases on the shelves in some smaller shops.  Day late and a dollar short again......
  
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Re: 32-40 Brass?
Reply #1 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:59pm
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I've made them from .38-55 when it was plentiful. Later from .32 Win. Spl. as it's always plentiful.
I simply lube my cases and once through my .32-40 die is all it takes. Nothing special after that, except to trim if needed on .38-55 brass. Using .32 Win. Spl. brass rarely takes trimming.
I use Hornady One Shot spray case lube, but some people say they use Imperial Sizing lube.
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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Hornady 32 special brass works, just lube it up and run thru the size die load and fire form.
You have to watch 38-55 brass, as the brass can get quite a bit to thick at the mouth after you size it down so sometimes inside mouth turning is necessary.
Keep a close eye out as Winchester does let out a batch of the 32-40 's every once in awhile, but you don't want to hesitate when you see it, either buy it or crab about not having any.. Wink
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:13pm
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Seems to me case length of the current 32-40 WW brass may be on the short side for (some?) chambers. 
But, may be "no Matter" if one is breech seating and using
smokeless.
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Reply #4 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 10:42pm
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All the 32-40 brass you need can be made from StarLine 38-55 cases. Both the 2.080 and 2.125 length cases are currently available from StarLine.
You need to anneal the brass approximately half way down the case body, use case lube sparingly but make sure the case is completely coated. Full length size brass in multiple stages, redistributing the lube on each case between stages. Go slow and be aware of what you are doing and you will only loose about 3 cases out of a 100.
After sizing, trim brass to precisely fit your chamber. Make a CerroSafe chamber cast so you get accurate measurement for case length.
Having a 100 prepared cases for a rifle makes match day a bit easier. I've been doing this for the past 4-5 seasons for both my offhand and bench rest 32-40s.
If you are one of those shooters who prefer to use only a single case, buy a handful of cases from Buffalo Arms, then anneal, resize and trim them for your 32-40 rifle. You will be good to go for years to come.
  

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Re: 32-40 Brass?
Reply #5 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 12:27am
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Hey there Bucksnort  --  Nothing to it.  I'd recommend using RCBS Cowboy dies and Hornady One Shot case lube.  I'm a fan of the long Starline brass.  

Lube some cases per the directions.  I run them into the sizing die about halfway and retract and then run the rest of the way.  Slow and steady plays well.

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The sizing will make them grow a little...

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No annealing is necessary.  Case mouths may get a zillionth thicker.  In these next two pictures the irregularities in the new brass probably account for most of the difference in neck thickness.  This was brass right out of the box with no sizing or other prep except to knock off some of the bigger sputters on the case mouth.

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Sizing and belling/flaring should make this a non-issue.

Hope this helps.  Best regards.  Wind





 
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 4:41pm
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I'm toying with the idea of have a .32-40CPA built, or changing my Savage #12 6mmBR into a 30BR, for cast PBB.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 5:12pm
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Bucksnort, if you want it for any of the games that the guys on this list play you'll have to go with the CPA as bolt actions aren't allowed. On the other hand, if you want a superbly accurate CBA rifle, the bolt action probably is the way to go.
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:47pm
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CPA's are good rifles. Another one you might consider is an  1885 from C Sharps.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 5:50am
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I have to go with RSW. I tried just lubing and sizing Starline 38 55 but every case would develop a fold/crease. I tried different lubes and I have RCBS Cowboy dies. After annealing I lost 1 case out of 140. Starline short brass requires only minimal trimming. Neck thickness matters not to me as I breach seat.
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:18am
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Well it may be this particular lot of 38-55 brass was a bit thick to begin with. The person I bought this Ballard from said he couldn't shoot black powder in the rifle it would pull the brass in two. Sure nuff, he was right. Upon further investigation, the reformed Starline he included in the sale, would not take a sized bullet back in the fired case, the neck thickness is to thick.. Even expanding it and loading with smokeless it is hard to chamber, but at least it won't pull in two.
  
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Reply #11 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 11:34am
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Not entirely off topic  but Starline indicated (verbally) at the 2018 SHOT Show it apparently plans to make 32-40 this year.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 3:22pm
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What about resizing .32 Win Spl?  I've read where they are a bit short, but when the actual brass case has very little to do with the OAL (breech seated bullet).  Why not take a .32 Win case and full length resize it in a .32-40 FL die?  I like the sund of Starline stepping up to the plate.  ED
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 4:45pm
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Don I've separated a few pieces of Starline .38-55 when breech seating with black.   Old Eynesford and Goex FFFg would do it nearly every time.   Swiss 1.5 and Goex Fg is way easier on the cases.  I use plain Goex Fg now believe it or not.  With a breech seated bullet from a particular BACO mold I own, my CPA is the most accurate rifle I've ever shot with black powder.  One of these days I'm going to spend some effort with it to take a serious run at shooting a black powder 250 with it.  First I have to put down the BPTR rifles though.

It would be nice if Starline made headstamped .32-40 brass, but then there goes my retirement plan of selling off my Win .32-40 brass stockpile when I hit 70 Smiley

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Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 5:43pm
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Snort, I've reshaped about all the suitable caliber cases into .32-40s, and using .32spl. is the easiest of the bunch. They are not too short to use for fixed at all. A little more of the bullet lube will be outside the case, but for use at the range, who cares?
I usually only end up about .040 shorter than my "real" .32-40 brass, and cannot really see a bit of difference fixed or breach seated, as far as the brass itself is concerned.
But, if you have a big pile of ol' .30-30 don't let it go to waste- it'll just be a bit different in length- still just fine.
  
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