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thefox Newbie Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2017	VALUE OF #4 RB Jan 28^th, 2018 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	A local dealer has a #4 RB in 32 rf that has been refinished,bore is dusky looking midway thru. He's asking $495. what would you all think it's worth?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #1 - Jan 28^th, 2018 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	Ah yes, those .32RFs are in great demand. $200, maybe.


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #2 - Jan 28^th, 2018 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	Over the past few years the prices on the little Rollers (#2 and #4) have taken off. That $495 price seems to be in line with prices I've seen at local gun shows and on Gunbroker. Two years ago at the Tulsa show the cheapest #2 I saw was $725 and it was absolute junk. A typical brown #2 was priced starting at $800. I've seen #4's priced $400 (in fair condition) to as high as $900 for a minty one. I realize that asking prices aren't necessarily selling prices. I'd offer the $200 mentioned above and go from there. That rifle is only going to be wall hanger anyway, unless you line it and make a .22 out of it.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #3 - Jan 28^th, 2018 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Jan 28^th, 2018 at 3:42pm: Over the past few years the prices on the little Rollers (#2 and #4) have taken off. BIG difference between #2 & #4! There must be a thousand of the latter for every one of the former. "Refinished" could of course mean anything from a "better than new" Turnbull restoration to the typical Joe Slob hot-blue & Linspeed monstrosity, but the latter outnumbers the former in the same ratio. GB prices are not a good reference--more likely to be "end of the world" pricing rather than a fair deal.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #4 - Jan 28^th, 2018 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	Around my area refinished or .32RF #4's wont get much over $200. Being that's is both refinished, and .32RF, I'd doubt it would go even $200. Now if the refinish was very nicely done with proper rust blued barrel, and cased receiver, it would. But most I see are ruined by being totally blued.

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Zack T Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 354 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2010	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #5 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 1:14am	Print Post
	There is one similar sitting on the rack at a local gunshop for $100 and it has been there a while. For $400 it better be a .22 solid frame or I think it is waaaay out of line.


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thefox Newbie Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2017	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #6 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 5:55am	Print Post
	Thanks fellows, we'll see what happens.


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ten-mile Full Member Offline Posts: 163 Location: Chetek Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #7 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 10:07am	Print Post
	I machine my 32 Long CF cases with an offset recess to take an Acorn blank or any other 22 blank. The 32 RF pin then ignites the blank nicely and you can shoot buckshot , heeled bullets like the 299153, or you can use a 311419 without a gas check and load it into the chamber followed by the charged case. This method makes all those 32 RFs shootable, but a refinished #4 is not worth $400. Keep looking and you will find something decent.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16009 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #8 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 10:12am	Print Post
	ten-mile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2018 at 10:07am: I machine my 32 Long CF cases with an offset recess to take an Acorn blank or any other 22 blank. The 32 RF pin then ignites the blank nicely and you can shoot buckshot , heeled bullets like the 299153, or you can use a 311419 without a gas check and load it into the chamber followed by the charged case. This method makes all those 32 RFs shootable, but a refinished #4 is not worth $400. Keep looking and you will find something decent. Punching those .22 blanks out of the adapter case is a PITA after they're fired and expand. I've used the same method on .32, .38, and .44RF cartridges, and just gave up. Might be what drove me towards Ballard rifles and their reversible firing pins, so I could shoot CF ammo instead.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #9 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	ten-mile wrote on Jan 29^th, 2018 at 10:07am: I machine my 32 Long CF cases with an offset recess to take an Acorn blank or any other 22 blank. The 32 RF pin then ignites the blank nicely and you can shoot buckshot , heeled bullets like the 299153, or you can use a 311419 without a gas check and load it into the chamber followed by the charged case. This method makes all those 32 RFs shootable, but a refinished #4 is not worth $400. Keep looking and you will find something decent. If you want to shoot it that bad, why not just convert the block to CF to be able to shoot .32 S&W? Chamber would also have to be reamed by the thickness of the brass, but that's easily done. Somewhat more work required initially, but afterwards, smooth sailing. By the way, years ago I had a #4 with a mint bore and a big supply of Canuck brand .32RFs, Long & Short. Sure, I could make it go "bang," but accuracy was so lousy--even with a tang sight installed--that I gave up on it.


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ten-mile Full Member Offline Posts: 163 Location: Chetek Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #10 - Jan 29^th, 2018 at 4:05pm	Print Post
	Some like doing it the hard way. Try it standing up in a hammock some time. I have not known of anyone that had much luck with foreign 32RF. I have an endless supply of 32 LCF and get exceptional accuracy with the 299153 bullet. Some 32RFs are not so easy to convert to CF as a #4.


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AZshot Full Member Offline Posts: 193 Location: Desert Southwest Joined: Nov 29^th, 2016	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #11 - Jan 31^st, 2018 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	Redsetter wrote on Jan 28^th, 2018 at 3:10pm: Ah yes, those .32RFs are in great demand. $200, maybe. But they've DOUBLED in value since the 1970s, when every antique shop and flea market I went to had one for $100!


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PetahW Junior Member Offline Posts: 74 Location: Southern New England Joined: Jan 10^th, 2012	Re: VALUE OF #4 RB Reply #12 - Mar 19^th, 2018 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Jan 28^th, 2018 at 3:42pm: That rifle is only going to be wall hanger anyway, unless you line it and make a .22 out of it. Not necessarily.................................. FWIW, I converted a .32RF solid frame #4 to CF in an hour or so, so I could shoot commercially available (Winchester) .32 Short Colt CF cartridges. E-Z-Peazy - just drill (1/16") the center of the breechblock, grind off the RF firing pin tip, then drill the face of the FP to accept the (shortened) shank of the 1/16" sacrificial drill bit used for the job. .


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