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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #15 - Jan 17th, 2018 at 4:54pm
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patriot wrote on Jan 17th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
I didn't see a name on the tang sight.  I believe it is a Lyman 103.


Correct.  Lyman tang sights were a Stevens option (not so sure about the 103), but the Sheard was not, so in that sense it is incorrect.  
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 12:26am
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Thats the sight I have. Verry scarce as  I recall. Good find.
  
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Reply #17 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 11:12am
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patriot wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 10:56pm:
marlinguy wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 10:36am:
What was interesting was both were removable lower tangs like a 44 DST tang.


Yes, it is a removable lower tang.



Yours being a 44 1/2 would have the removable lower tang regardless of trigger style I believe. The Stevens 44 only had a removable lower tang on set triggers I believe.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 11:51am
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The Stevens 44 only had a removable lower tang on set triggers I believe.


Right, and some Stevens catalogs include drawings of both SS & DS lower tangs, which appear to be identical in external dimensions; for which reason I've suspected buttstocks are interchangeable between 44 & 44-1/2 frames.  This should be a conjecture easy to prove or disprove by experiment, but I confess I've always been too lazy to try it.  Has anyone done this?   
  
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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #19 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 1:06pm
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Redsetter wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 11:51am:
marlinguy wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 11:12am:
The Stevens 44 only had a removable lower tang on set triggers I believe.


Right, and some Stevens catalogs include drawings of both SS & DS lower tangs, which appear to be identical in external dimensions; for which reason I've suspected buttstocks are interchangeable between 44 & 44-1/2 frames.  This should be a conjecture easy to prove or disprove by experiment, but I confess I've always been too lazy to try it.  Has anyone done this?  


CPA's site says the stocks are not the same. The site says the 44 1/2 stocks are larger, and require wood removal to use on a 44. So it may be the tangs are equal, but the 44 1/2 being a wider action would make wood from a 44 be low when installed on a 44 1/2.
  
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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #20 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 2:10pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 19th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

CPA's site says the stocks are not the same. The site says the 44 1/2 stocks are larger, and require wood removal to use on a 44. So it may be the tangs are equal, but the 44 1/2 being a wider action would make wood from a 44 be low when installed on a 44 1/2.


If the two straight-grip actions I just measured are typical of all, the difference is pretty minimal:  dimensions top to bottom at rear of frame where it meets buttstock are identical.  Side to side at same point, the 44-1/2 was thicker by the difference of .009".
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 19th, 2018 at 2:51pm
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The CPA 441/2 actions are not made to the same deminsions as the originals and are quite a bit larger and I would assume for  for additional strength. The reason for and amount of changes are noted on their Web Site. If in need of new wood Gail can leave it fat in the areas one requests during the duplicating process so one can create a perfect fit. This is something she has done for me when requested in the past so I could only assume it is something she would still do.

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Reply #22 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 8:47am
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I have a single-set trigger on my Stevens 044 1/2 Ladies Model.  It works great, I've shot it in several matches.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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I also would like to know if anyone has put a Stevens 44 1/2 stock on a Stevens 45 .22 LR with the Swiss buttstock. I'd like to be able to swap stocks to shoot the 44 1/2 crescent stock in BPCR matches with out seriously modifying the original rifle or stock. Are they interchangable? I mean enough so that I don't have to scrape wood or redrill holes.
  
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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 1:04am
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A 44 stock will go on a 44 1/2 action, but not the other way.  The 44 needs larger interior clearance cuts for its' arched mainspring, unless you have a set-trigger 44 with the separate tang.  I just tried it with some of my loose parts.  In my case the 44 stock will require a bit of scraping in the tang channels...it's a very tight fit.  YMMV.
  
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Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:42am
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"I also would like to know if anyone has put a Stevens 44 1/2 stock on a Stevens 45 .22 LR with the Swiss buttstock. I'd like to be able to swap stocks to shoot the 44 1/2 crescent stock in BPCR matches with out seriously modifying the original rifle or stock. Are they interchangable? I mean enough so that I don't have to scrape wood or redrill holes."

I put a 441/2 crescent stock on my model 45 which came to me with the Swiss stock.  They were both 441/2 actions. No changes necessary. 
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Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:49am
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uscra112 wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 1:04am:
A 44 stock will go on a 44 1/2 action, but not the other way.  The 44 needs larger interior clearance cuts for its' arched mainspring, unless you have a set-trigger 44 with the separate tang. 


Well, that answers a question I've long wondered about, but from external observation alone, had assumed the contrary; experimentation always beats speculation.
  
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Reply #27 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 1:02pm
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So, Fogman, the pertinent question is on which action is your Model 45?
  
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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #28 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 9:43am
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It is on a 44 1/2 action. The screw configuration on the action is the 44 1/2. Evidently some .22LR 44 1/2 actions had an added screw that looks like the 44 action. This one does not - it a Model 45 with a 44 1/2 action.
  
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Re: Stevens 45
Reply #29 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 10:02am
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Fogman wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 9:43am:
Evidently some .22LR 44 1/2 actions had an added screw that looks like the 44 action.


If you have to count screws to distinguish between the two, something's wrong with either your vision or your brain.
  
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