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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 583 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Hammond Patent Tang Sight Dec 20^th, 2017 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	This post is influenced by GT's post in the Gunsmithing section titled "more sights". If you haven't seen it, go back and take a look at his work. I recently bought a Winchester High Wall with a few custom features. All the modifications are period and nothing recent. A friend pointed out the tang sight to me when I was considering buying it. I am glad he nudged me to get it. I took a close look at the tang sight. The shape of the base is similar to a Winchester tang sight base except that it has step-outs where the staff meets the base and is adjustable for windage. The sight staff has teeth on its right inner edge and the "carrier" that the sight cup screws into has an adjustment knob in the back that when twisted drives the carrier higher or lower. It's a very interesting design and other than the patent drawing, this is the only actual sight I've seen. If anyone has other interesting sights, I hope you will post photos!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #1 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	That's a pretty cool sight Joe! I have nothing as nifty, but I bought a Ballard #2 many years ago and this "tang sight" was mounted on it. It was mounted on the tang in the factory holes, but obviously built from a Lyman 48 receiver sight. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) It's made to be quickly removed with the knurled knob, and it zeros back perfectly when returned to the base. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #2 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	Joe, I believe that was the sight I received a picture of from another member. I really like the simplicity of the adjustments, and once the process is figured out... they are relatively easy to make. Was this the 1885? or is this yet another? I do have a few questions regarding the windage. Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 583 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #3 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Yes, that's the rifle above! Vall, I like the creativity to mount the Lyman receiver sight in the traditional space ... very cool.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #4 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:36pm	Print Post
	Vall, That's the second one of those I've seen from a Lyman, are there any additional elevation graduations on the base? Here's a quick modification I made to use a Lyman 57E once upon a time. Found I use it frequently if there's two holes for a scope base. Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #5 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Joe, Is the screw on the back of the base just to take up the slack?

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 583 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	I didn't mess with the base at all. I was afraid of disassembling it and not being able to reassemble it.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #7 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 9:35pm	Print Post
	I understand how that is - says the guy with a couple of projects in buckets that are going to take some time to figure out re-assembly...

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 11:51pm	Print Post
	Joe, I did a post on some of my sights a while back, it included a version of my Hammond sight copy - I think - here it is again attached to one of my old clunkers. I have also attached a PDF of the original H. Hammond patent and his drawings for those out there that may be interested. Greg

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 11:11am	Print Post
	GT wrote on Dec 20^th, 2017 at 8:36pm: Vall, That's the second one of those I've seen from a Lyman, are there any additional elevation graduations on the base? Here's a quick modification I made to use a Lyman 57E once upon a time. Found I use it frequently if there's two holes for a scope base. Greg No Greg, there are no elevation capabilities in the base. The two mortises have stops on the bottom, so it simply slides in until it hits the stops. I thought a pair of allen set screws in the base could be used as stops and gain another 3/8"-1/2" of elevation, and still be solid. The present Lyman 48 will let a old caliber reach 400 yds., if the front sight isn't too tall. I have another similar base, but much simpler. It just has two holes horizontally d&t'd to mount a receiver sight on. I've never looked for a receiver sight to fit it, as I wasn't that impressed with the simple design.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3539 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #10 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 11:49am	Print Post
	Clean up that bench, put the tools away where they belong, and let us know how that ol' loading press works for ya. Merry Christmas, too.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	calledflyer wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 11:49am: Clean up that bench, put the tools away where they belong, and let us know how that ol' loading press works for ya. Merry Christmas, too. I love that bench picture! Thought it was my bench at first!

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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	Not a chance of cleaning... I spent a couple hours cleaning a spot in my middle shop and making room for a gun drill and rifling machine this last weekend, what a huge waste of time... cluttered bench, cluttered mind - I resemble that remark. That C-H is good, but I favor the Hollywood more.

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3539 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	That was my wife posting that. My benches look similar- no Stevens or Ballards. P.S. Is the caulking gun for plugging up the gaps in old stock to metal fit?


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Hammond Patent Tang Sight Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	GT wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 1:00pm: Not a chance of cleaning... I spent a couple hours cleaning a spot in my middle shop and making room for a gun drill and rifling machine this last weekend, what a huge waste of time... cluttered bench, cluttered mind - I resemble that remark. That C-H is good, but I favor the Hollywood more. Look at a picture of Harry Pop's shop.

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