I too shoot mostly all smokeless. What I am talking about are guys who are demonstrating that they know little or nothing about what they are doing and have little or no interest in learning. Their only objective is to brag that my cartridge is bigger than your cartridge and to demonstrate that they can take more punishment when shooting.
My favorite is a guy shooting a 45-120 on a Ruger #1 action with a 28” barrel. First he asks what we all think of him buying the rifle. When I posted that the action was plenty strong enough the barrel was way too short to shoot a case full of black and that if he was planning on shooting smokeless a 45-70 had more than enough boiler room to take him to the edges of reason for a lot less money. He ignored me.
The next posts are why is my 45-120 leading for the last two inches of the barrel? I suggested a the wheel weights he was casting with were too hard or the bullet was a poor fit, or he was using the wrong lube. He decided it was his powder choice and is now asking how many strokes with a wire brush it takes others to get the lead out of their bores. 

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Fogman wrote on Dec 9^th, 2017 at 10:52am:


That sounds contradictory to what every BP enthusiast has told me? They always say to not challenge yourself, and simply shoot a full case of BP. Where's the challenge?

cleaning is easier than smokeless   art

Anybody who thinks shooting black powder loads accurately is not a challenge should try it first then post their results for all to see. 
Mike.

I agree completely, that probably explains the reason for the popularity of smokeless powder, not the fact that it's easier to clean up the rifle later. My point was that to get reasonable accuracy using black powder is difficult, not just a matter of filling the case and shoving a bullet on top. To be clear I only use black in my rifles which are all chambered for black powder cartridges, as I feel this meets the traditional way.
However having said that should I ever decide to go the smokeless route I will probably just get a nice bolt action bench rest rifle in 6mm PPC and shoot .5  " groups or better all day, screw tradition eh.
Mike.

All this reminds me about what someone said about V8 engines, I think it went something like, If you understand V8s no explanation is necessary, if you don't, no explanation is possible. Same with using black.
Mike.

Might add that, these days, real black is getting harder and harder to get.  Last small lot ( 2# ) of Swiss I got, I had to drive and hour and a half each way to meet a fireworks licensee at a display site.  Big incentive to use smokeless.