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1coolcat Participating Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Sep 17^th, 2017	Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	So.. I got about 300lbs of Range scrap lead I'm going to cast into ingots for later bullet casting. There are alot of fullmetal jacket pistol bullets in the mix. My question is... Can I just toss it all in a pot ..will the lead leak out of the full metal jacket pistol bullets ..or pop and Splatter molten lead all over..I would hate to have to pick out all the jacketed bullet. I will be meeting lead outside in a safe area, in a Dutch oven with a lid.. Please advise Thanks guys


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1coolcat Participating Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Sep 17^th, 2017	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:24pm: I did the same thing using a cast iron pot over a gas burner. Skim the jackets off and discard. No spattering. Joe. Thanks for the reply Joe, with copper having a higher melting temp. then lead how does the lead get out? ..i hope this isn't a dumb question .haha


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1661 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	It gets out the hole in the base.

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n.r.davis Oldtimer Offline Posts: 613 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2015	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Got a hold of 750 pounds if wheel weights. Old Cast Iron Tea Kettle (made in China) over a Turkey Fryer. Left the lid open as If there was any water I wanted it to Steam off while the WW were heating up. Worked like a charm, maybe 30 pounds at a time. David


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1coolcat Participating Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Sep 17^th, 2017	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	Good deal, thank you guys


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 6:45pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:33pm: Lead runs out of the base or nose of the jackets. Jackets float on top of the lead like bobbers. Make very sure you don't drop wet bullets in molten lead. Joe. You will never forget a drop of water in molten lead! The expansion ratio is something in the neighborhood of 1600:1. Safety glass and heavy leather gloves are in order. No poly clothing, it will melt into your skin.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:01pm	Print Post
	"Full Jacket" pistol bullets means (to me) these plated bullets which have no exposed lead anywhere. Unless the impact broke the jacket, no lead will get out. If'n I had a lot of them, I might try to find some easy way to open the jacket. If just a few, I'd just forget about 'em.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3987 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:21pm	Print Post
	A few years ago, having gotten tired of mystery metal #1 through 99, I consolidated ALL of my alloy and made several batches. batch 1 is pure lead with some tin. batch 2 was WW and I added tin. batch 3 pure lead batch 4 etc. 300 and 400 lb batches - had them measured. batch 1 is 30:1 (I add tin for 20:1) batch 2 turns out to be 8%tin 3% antimony (ok for pistol bullets and plinking Pure lead for alloying. Linotype for 22 caliber high velocity NO more guessing. Using half a stainless beer keg over a turkey fryer and using a weed burner helps. Ingot molds of 3" diameter 3" high work well for dropping a big ingot into the bullet pouring furnace.

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KAF Ex Member	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #8 - Oct 16^th, 2017 at 3:40pm	Print Post
	Do not put any jacketed bullets into the molten alloy. Put the jacketed stuff in the pot while it is heating. The moisture/water will cook off before the alloy goes molten. Moisture/water forced UNDER the alloy and it wil super heat blow up sending alloy everywhere. Hot molten alloy. Make sure all is dry before adding to molten alloy.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3987 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Bullet casting ( range scrap question) Reply #9 - Oct 16^th, 2017 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	Quote: Do not put any jacketed bullets into the molten alloy. Put the jacketed stuff in the pot while it is heating. The moisture/water will cook off before the alloy goes molten. Moisture/water forced UNDER the alloy and it wil super heat blow up sending alloy everywhere. Hot molten alloy. Make sure all is dry before adding to molten alloy. Good advice! Let me just add two things from experience: a) tinsel fairy and b) scars

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