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Need a .25 caliber 65 grain mould
Jul 20th, 2017 at 8:07am
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To further the .25 Stevens Rimfire recapitulation project, I need a source for 65 grain .258 diameter bullets.   Which, it seems, I shall have to cast myself. (Not surprising.)  Anyone got a such a mould?  Recommend a source for a custom mould?   

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Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:22am
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I have some of these on the way to try. Shipping seems to be on the slow side. They are sized at .258. The mold is an NOE and I think 10 are needed for a run.

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Arsenal makes a 60 grain I have thought about.
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I am also interested in the project.

A friend has recently had a bullet go into production through Acme, that also may be a possibility as a mold or bullet source. There would need to be enough interest in the bullet.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 2:21pm
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I've had an order outstanding with Western Bullet, going on two weeks now.  No shipping notification, doesn't answer emails, doesn't answer the phone.  Haven't asked my CC provider yet whether they've charged my card, but I will do so come Monday, and if they have I'm reversing the charge for cause.  Last night I found a warning on another forum about this company. 

Forgot that WBC's are from an NOE mould.   Going to order one of those right now.
  

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Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 2:40pm
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When I looked at NOE there were none in stock, my understanding was he needed an minimum order and I was hoping to try the bullets first.

I would be up for a mold if a minimum order is needed.

As for Western, he's always slow, but I have never not got an order. May try for an in person pick up, will be down there in a couple weeks....
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 2:47pm
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Looks like you're right, not in stock. Or at least the NOE site won't let me order.   Just sent an email inquiry.  

Phil

Added:  Looks like the minimum order to start an inventory run is five.  

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There's already an active thread for 260-62-WFN, which is a little different.  Has no crimp groove.  Not sure I'd want that, I expect to crimp my bullets in like the OEMs did. 
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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 3:32pm
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I've had an order outstanding with Western Bullet, going on two weeks now.  No shipping notification, doesn't answer emails, doesn't answer the phone.
Normal course of business with Western Bullet  Grin
March 4th - Order Date
July 12th - Received Date
And in between - Zero Contact Capability.
Nice bullets though
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 4:51pm
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How the heck does he stay in business?  No repeat customers, I would assume.
  

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Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 12:24pm
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Please let us know how this little project goes-I have a 25 rimfire that I'd like to try
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 1:10pm
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There was an earlier thread on this, but I can't seem to locate it.  Basics are: Take a .17 WMR cartridge, pull the bullet, dump the powder.  Trim to about 1.145" OAL.  Now the tricky part.  Expand the neck to take a .258 bullet.  This brass is brittle, so it has to be done in small stages.  I'm using several Lee expanders, for their shallow taper, and machined off to the following diameters: First stage .195" ID.  Second stage .210 ID. Third stage .230 ID, Fourth stage .258 ID.    A Lee die set for the .25 ACP is handy for this.  The sizer is too small for the final stage, so you have to stick the spindle out and only screw the die into the press by a few threads.  But the seater is OK.  A .22 Hornet shellholder works just fine.  I bought two .22 and two .30 caliber expanders, and several collet nuts for the project from Lee. The expander spindles often slip, so once I have a setting I tack-weld them.  Final trim to 1.135" OAL.  Still have no bullets, so can't say a thing yet about loads.   

I lost a LOT of the cases to splitting before this sequence got worked out.  I still lose maybe 10%. That first trim to length is a key factor.  Obviously you can't anneal them without risk of setting the primer off.  

These cases have thicker metal in the rim.  It takes a solid blow to set one off.  My Stevens Marksman won't do it, but my Favorite will.
  

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Reply #9 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 1:29pm
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Have you tried NEI for the mould.

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Reply #10 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 2:05pm
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JLouis wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 1:29pm:
Have you tried NEI for the mould.

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They show a gas checked version and if I understand the order options correctly it could be done as a nose pour with a hollow base. That would probably duplicate the original very closely.
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Re: Need a .25 caliber 65 grain mould
Reply #11 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 3:02pm
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Be very careful with NEI.

It seems like they will accept your money but, fail to deliever a mold.

Do a search for NEI on this forum. There should be a thread talking about people not getting their mold after sending their money.

It was a great company when it was in Oregon but, after the owner died and it moved to TX it's not, anymore.

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Reply #12 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:43pm
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I have a Lyman mold for a 65gr 258 (#257420) that casts a nice flat nosed gas checked  bullet. Midway has them listed as available. Midsouth if they have one would probably cost a little less.  I bought it for a plinking with the 25-20M.

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Re: Need a .25 caliber 65 grain mould
Reply #13 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 8:37pm
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ww wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:43pm:
I have a Lyman mold for a 65gr 258 (#257420) that casts a nice flat nosed gas checked  bullet. Midway has them listed as available. Midsouth if they have one would probably cost a little less.  I bought it for a plinking with the 25-20M.

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Well, dang me!  I never think of going to Midway for moulds.  And on sale, too.  It's a gas check type, but for this project I can live with it.  Would like to have a crimp groove, but I'll live with that, too. Thanks! 

I'm impatient. Want to get going so I ordered from Midway.  They had cheaper shipping. (Really!) 

BTW I couldn't even get the NEI site to show me the available inventory.  Gave up and wrote 'em off.   

  

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