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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2882 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Percussion target rifles? May 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm	Print Post
	I am looking for references to the makers of percussion target rifles in the post-1865 period. I have A.M. Carey's American Firearms Makers and all of Ned Roberts books. What have I missed? Yes, I am still searching for info on William B. Farrow from Holyoke, Mass. Carey is the only reference so far. Also, I have a cased Brockway rifle I want to learn about. Is there any forum that discusses these rifles?


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Flatlander Oldtimer Offline Posts: 631 Location: Warm Arizona Joined: Apr 24^th, 2004	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #1 - May 13^th, 2017 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	The American Percussion Schuetzen Rifle by Rowe is another interesting read. Flatlander

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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #2 - May 13^th, 2017 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	Exclusive information about Norman S. Brockway is hard to come by. I can only add to the references already mentioned a 5-page article plus footnotes, "Norman S. Brockway and his Rifles", by Eric Bye, which appeared in the June, 1997 issue of Muzzleblasts, the organ of the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association. A copy of that article may be available from the association's archives. You might also try contacting long-time gun dealer Richard Littlefield at anniesgang@earthlink. If that email link proves no longer current, you can try his son, who deals through the Firearms Gallery at the Antique Associates at West Townsend web site. Hope this is of some help. Bull Lawrence


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #3 - May 13^th, 2017 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	waterman wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm: Is there any forum that discusses these rifles? You've checked the NMLRA site? Even there, it would be a fringe interest, because the folks who used to be most interested in such guns (I remember some of them) were all older than me; now, they're RIP.


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scharfe Oldtimer Online A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 586 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #4 - May 13^th, 2017 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	I don't know when he interviewed Brockway but ned Roberts met with him just before he died. Roberts wrote an article in I think the American rifleman. if the interview was after the muzzle loading cap lock rifle was done you may find additional info there.


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2133 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #5 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:05pm	Print Post
	I had some old American Rifleman magazines, and there were two articles about Norman Brockway, who as I recall, lived until 1936. The articles were about Brockway's later rifles, which were single shots that he re-bored and fitted with false muzzles and starters. These guns came with two piece molds and swages, and were made for two strip paper patches.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #6 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Schutzenbob wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:05pm: I had some old American Rifleman magazines, and there were two articles about Norman Brockway, who as I recall, lived until 1936. The articles were about Brockway's later rifles, which were single shots that he re-bored and fitted with false muzzles and starters. These guns came with two piece molds and swages, and were made for two strip paper patches. Do you mean he made heavy slug guns on a sinle shot center fore action?

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2882 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #7 - May 13^th, 2017 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	Brockway made at least two heavy muzzle loading rifles on center fire single shot actions. Reports have both with false muzzles and paper cross patches. One rifle was a .34 caliber on a Farrow action. The other was a larger caliber, maybe .38, on a Whitney action. Which Whitney action I do not know. My guess is Phoenix. Both used conventional cartridge cases to hold powder & primers.


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ResearchPress Full Member Offline Posts: 110 Location: UK Joined: Aug 18^th, 2004	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #8 - May 13^th, 2017 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	waterman wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 2:31pm: I am looking for references to the makers of percussion target rifles in the post-1865 period. Homer Fisher of New York made a muzzle loading long range match rifle in the 1870s, styled after the classic British long range match rifles of the period. I have some (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) David

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Mick B Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1007 Location: 19 Ian Nicol St watson ACT aus Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #9 - May 13^th, 2017 at 7:49pm	Print Post
	You might also try calling Lee Shaver who is heavily into M/L long range shooting and also manufactures a replica of the Ferris M/L target rifle. Mike.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #10 - May 13^th, 2017 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	ResearchPress wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: Homer Fisher of New York made a muzzle loading long range match rifle in the 1870s, styled after the classic British long range match rifles of the period. I have some (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) David Have a copy of an 1880 Fisher catalog, but this is more info about the man than I've seen elsewhere; wonder how he reacted to being labeled "not a brilliant marksman"! Have a feeling he only commissioned the rifle in question, as he's not mentioned by Roberts as a maker.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2882 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #11 - May 14^th, 2017 at 2:29am	Print Post
	Homer Fisher was one of three men who won their way into the three NRA-financially supported positions on the American 1880 International team, competing against the Irish at Dollymount. W. Milton Farrow was another. There were some 40 shooters trying out for the positions. What would be required to be "a brilliant marksman"?


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2882 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #12 - May 14^th, 2017 at 2:54am	Print Post
	I went to the NMLRA website. No forum and not really much help. I could subscribe to Muzzle Blasts. I subscribed back when I was in the Navy. Always looked forward to Es Possible En Cuba. Those guys must have all passed away by now.


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digitall423 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 747 Location: Mexico Beach, FL Joined: Aug 5^th, 2005	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #13 - May 14^th, 2017 at 5:50am	Print Post
	Lots of Muzzleblasts on ebay. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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rtp Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Location: Vernal UT Joined: Jul 17^th, 2014	Re: Percussion target rifles? Reply #14 - May 14^th, 2017 at 9:26am	Print Post
	Hello everyone, Here is a recently completed California style rifle and the discussion over on the longrifle site. Roger (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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